Glenn Beck Exposes 'Cash for Clunkers' Language

[WatchManUSA]

If someone beat me to this story I’m sorry…

Glenn Beck on his July 31 TV program had a segment about the Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS) Web site, "Cash for Clunkers."  He demonstrated what a Web browser would encounter when logging on to the system.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqfuZ7hiap0

"A warning box comes up, and it says, ‘This application provides to the DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a federal computer system and it is property of the United States government,'" Beck read. "‘Any and all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DoT and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign.'"

"Good God almighty!" Beck said.

Oh my God, can you believe this?  

My first reaction is that Glenn Beck got it wrong.  Is this really true?  

If true, this kills the Bill of Rights!

[runstowin]

Just another example of there is no free lunch. Take money from the Feds, in exchange for your liberty.

[Kid Shelleen]

This is the administration that spent much of the campaign complaining about the treatment of terrorist prisoners and how we were violating the poor, mistreated, terrorists rights.

Now that they are in office, they are going easy on the non-American terrorists and giving them rights, while simultaneously taking away as many rights of U.S. citizens as possible.

And how 'bout the wonderful "Cash for Clunkers" program? It was supposed to last through October and it went broke in the first week. Boy oh boy, wasn't that great planning, anticipation and execution.

This was nothing more than another (poorly hidden) bailout of the American auto industry, where we, the American people, are the majority share holders of two companies.

"Cash for Clunkers," broke in a week and brought to you by the same people who want us to believe that they can properly manage the U.S. healthcare system and take over another 20% of the U.S. economy.

[alfsauve]

HOAX

Okay, being a skeptic, I first went to the Glen Beck web site and couldn't find any reference to this.  Hmmmm.  Did the gubernment get to GB?   So, hey, I've got a spare computer, went to www.cars.gov and explored every screen.  No such agreement.   Did some more probing.  The website is for dealer transactions at ESC.Gov, not CARS.Gov.   I don't even thing there's a link between cars.gov and esc.gov.

The agreement is not exactly what Glen read.  Yes, it says your computer is considered a Federal computer system, BUT ONLY when logged on to the CARS system.   Just that all information and files related to the transaction are subject to monitoring and auditing.  Also it states that, in regards to CARS, there is no expectation of privacy.   I don't think there's a big conspiricy here.   I think they're just trying to minimize fraud by threatening any dealer with every possible statue under the Federal sun.

https://supplierpayments.esc.gov/OA_HTML/RF.jsp?function_id=28716&resp_id=-1&resp_appl_id=-1&security_group_id=0&lang_code=US&params=1QjBbvK328ZbUaSUNj3kbu7K3gvpagsk17LptZc1LOg   

This application provides access to the DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a Federal computer system and is the property of the United States Government. It is for authorized use only. Users (authorized or unauthorized) have no explicit or implicit expectation of privacy.

Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DoT, and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign. By using this system, the user consents to such interception, monitoring, recording, copying, auditing, inspection, and disclosure at the discretion CARS or the DoT personnel.

Unauthorized or improper use of this system may result in administrative disciplinary action and civil and criminal penalties.

Unauthorized attempts to defeat or circumvent security features, to use the system for other than intended purposes, to deny service to authorized users, to access, obtain, alter, damage, or destroy information, or otherwise to interfere with the system or its operation are prohibited. Evidence of such acts may be disclosed to law enforcement authorities and result in criminal prosecution under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 (Public Law 99-474) and the National Information Infrastructure Protection Act of 1996 (Public Law 104-294), (18 U.S.C. 1030), or other applicable criminal laws.

[callithump]

It's not how I want my money spent.

[Sponsor]

[alfsauve]

It's not how I want my money spent.

I agree.  As much as I'd love the gubermint to give me $4,500 of your money. ;-)

[WatchManUSA]

HOAX

Okay, being a skeptic, I first went to the Glen Beck web site and couldn't find any reference to this.  Hmmmm.  Did the gubernment get to GB?   So, hey, I've got a spare computer, went to www.cars.gov and explored every screen.  No such agreement.   Did some more probing.  The website is for dealer transactions at ESC.Gov, not CARS.Gov.   I don't even thing there's a link between cars.gov and esc.gov.

The agreement is not exactly what Glen read.  Yes, it says your computer is considered a Federal computer system, BUT ONLY when logged on to the CARS system.   Just that all information and files related to the transaction are subject to monitoring and auditing.  Also it states that, in regards to CARS, there is no expectation of privacy.   I don't think there's a big conspiricy here.   I think they're just trying to minimize fraud by threatening any dealer with every possible statue under the Federal sun.

https://supplierpayments.esc.gov/OA_HTML/RF.jsp?function_id=28716&resp_id=-1&resp_appl_id=-1&security_group_id=0&lang_code=US&params=1QjBbvK328ZbUaSUNj3kbu7K3gvpagsk17LptZc1LOg   

Beck didn't back down on this issue on his radio show this morning.  He said there would be more tonight on TV.  I couldn't listen to his complete show this morning but I did listen to the first half-hour or so.  Perhaps he may have back off later in the program but I doubt it.

[Kid Shelleen]

I'm anxious to hear Becks latest tonight. This is scary stuff. It leagally throws out many of our Constitutional rights.

WRONG in every sense. I am glad that I'm not a car dealer, but it makes me leary about other government intrusions, that we might not be aware of. I put nothing past this elitist administration and their Czar minions.

[WatchManUSA]

I'm never flying past those Terms and Conditions screens again on government sites.  I wonder what is included when the Terms and Conditions screens when you apply for unemployment benefits.

[tombogan03884]

 Nothing like that.