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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 11:15:38 PM »
so if obama was 100% pro gun, but had all his other policys... we should vote for him?


thats basicly what your saying.

what i'm saying is, voting on just one issue/ one party, is a very bad thing.
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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 01:42:08 AM »
so if obama was 100% pro gun, but had all his other policys... we should vote for him?


thats basicly what your saying.

what i'm saying is, voting on just one issue/ one party, is a very bad thing.

He could not be even slightly pro gun with his other policies TAB. That is why the gun issue is such an effective way to judge a candidate. You can not allow the people to be responsible for their own safety when you are trying to get them to cede ALL other responsibility (Power) to the Govt. That quote from Mao that I use, "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun" ?
 It's actually quite a bit longer,
"Every communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party."
And these from Hitler, ""The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms."
"History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so."

Guns, in the hands of a countries citizenry, are what makes the difference between a free state and a totalitarian one. hence if you are trying to create a socialist Nanny state you can not allow the sheep to have teeth.
On the flip side of that of course if you favor letting citizens take responsibility for their own safety, you will be of a mindset to expect them to accept responsibility for other aspects of their lives, and by extension their society.

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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 12:42:39 PM »
AMEN

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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 01:04:11 PM »
He could not be even slightly pro gun with his other policies TAB. That is why the gun issue is such an effective way to judge a candidate. You can not allow the people to be responsible for their own safety when you are trying to get them to cede ALL other responsibility (Power) to the Govt. That quote from Mao that I use, "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun" ?
 It's actually quite a bit longer,
"Every communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party."
And these from Hitler, ""The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms."
"History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so."

Guns, in the hands of a countries citizenry, are what makes the difference between a free state and a totalitarian one. hence if you are trying to create a socialist Nanny state you can not allow the sheep to have teeth.
On the flip side of that of course if you favor letting citizens take responsibility for their own safety, you will be of a mindset to expect them to accept responsibility for other aspects of their lives, and by extension their society.

Perfectly and succinctly stated, Thomas.  Thank you.
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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 09:23:00 PM »
Tom its not a perfect world, and you know just as well as I do that is not the case in the real world.

every thing is shades of gray.
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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2009, 12:52:27 AM »
Tom its not a perfect world, and you know just as well as I do that is not the case in the real world.

every thing is shades of gray.

That IS real world TAB, leopards don't change their spots.

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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2009, 01:24:12 AM »
That IS real world TAB, leopards don't change their spots.


happens all the time... they will do anything if it benfits them. 
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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2009, 04:24:11 AM »

BO is making the same mistakes again, just on a much grander scale.


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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2009, 05:55:58 AM »

"Hyper-Inflation"

Fixed it.  >:(  :'(

Sadly, it is an almost likely eventuality. I'm guessing within 12-18 months from now.
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Re: Why Do People Vote for Obama (and other Dems)?
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2009, 01:34:17 PM »

happens all the time... they will do anything if it benfits them. 

But TAB, what you seem to ignore is that, in the case of "these people" what benefits them is a socialist nanny-state in which they, the intellectual-elite, control every aspect of the lives of "we the people".  As Tom has pointed out, that cannot be done when "the sheep have teeth".  Therefore, it would be impossible for Obama to be even slightly pro-gun.  He might POSTURE himself to make it appear that he is (to those who are suffering from cranial-rectal insertion) but that posturing would be as misleading as his promises to post all bills online to allow the voters time to read them before they were voted upon.  I seem to recall that promise in reference to the "stimulus" package that was then literally shoved down our throats in the dark of night.

The point is that, while he may want you to THINK that he supports 2A rights, nothing could be further from the truth.  And as a result, that in itself is enough reason to NOT vote for him.

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