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Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« on: August 09, 2009, 08:40:32 AM »
I picked this up from Drudge. I you're there Phil, if you give me the hook up and your couch till I get a place, I'll buy the beer and bring you an AR. ;D
FQ13 Who will soon be starting Captain Quaker's Camel Safari if Sarah Palin doesn't beat me to it. ;D ;D ;D

Australia considers mass killings of camels
By KRISTEN GELINEAU (AP) – 11 hours ago

SYDNEY — Thousands of camels in Australia's remote Outback could be killed by marksmen in helicopters under a government proposal aimed at cutting down the population of the havoc-wreaking creatures.

First introduced into Australia in the 1840s to help explorers travel through the Australian desert, there are now about 1 million camels roaming the country, with the population doubling every nine years.

They compete with sheep and cattle for food, trample vegetation and invade remote settlements in search of water, scaring residents as they tear apart bathrooms and rip up water pipes.

Last month, the federal government set aside 19 million Australian dollars ($16 million) for a program to help slash the population. Besides sending in sharpshooters in helicopters and on foot, officials are considering proposals to turn some of the creatures into tasty treats such as camel burgers.

Hunters in the United States have shot wolves from helicopters in Alaska in an aerial predator control program there. More than 800 wolves have been killed as part of the program, which has been a point of national controversy since it was initiated five years ago.

Glenn Edwards, who is working on drafting the Australian government's camel reduction program, said the population needs to be slashed by two-thirds to reduce catastrophic damage.

But some remain opposed to a mass slaughter. Camel exporter Paddy McHugh, who runs camel catching operations throughout Australia, said a cull would be ineffective.

"What happens in 15 years when the numbers come back again? Do we waste another $20 million?" McHugh said.

The camels McHugh's associates capture are sold overseas, used in tourism and processed for their meat. In recent years, McHugh said he has seen an explosion in international demand for the animals.

The main problem with trying to capture and export the animals is that they can grow up to 7 feet (2.1 meters) tall and weigh 2,000 pounds (900 kilograms), said Patrick Medway, president of the Wildlife Preservation Society of Australia.

"You imagine trying to catch a lion or a tiger or an elephant in its native habitat and then bring it back and sell it to another country," Medway said. "It's not an easy thing to do."

Tony Peacock, CEO of the University of Canberra's Invasive Animals Cooperative Research Center, said a cull was the most effective method.

"To be shot from a helicopter is actually quite humane, even though that sounds brutal," he said. "If I was a camel, I'd prefer to just get it in the head."

Mark Pearson, executive director of the animal welfare group Animal Liberation New South Wales, offered another solution: birth control. Giving the animals a drug to render them infertile is far kinder than pumping them full of bullets, he said.

But Edwards said even if you could get close enough to administer birth control, camels still live up to 30 years — meaning decades more damage to the environment.

Edwards favors an integrated approach that would include shooting some of the animals for their meat, with others left behind to decompose. No matter what solution is accepted, Edwards said, waiting much longer to act would be disastrous.

"We need to get moving as soon as we can because we are facing a crisis," he said

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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2009, 08:53:57 AM »
 In 1837 US Army Capt Beale attempted to introduce camels to America as part of a program to ease cargo transport across America's deserts. for some reason they did not fare well and the program was abandoned.

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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2009, 08:54:03 AM »
7mm mag?
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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2009, 08:58:04 AM »
7mm mag?
They're 2,000 ilbs. I would say .338 and up. Probably a .375 H@H on the ground, .338 at range. Bow hunters are on their own. ;D
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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 05:08:40 AM »
heheh  good luck getting the AR here 


I will get some Pics from a Mate up north     ( the ferrel cats of the desert )     hehe they will be before and after shots :)


I thought I Posted some stuff about this 

I here it is all over the news there 



there is a bit of info here about it

http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,25832719-5017672,00.html


now for the funny part

check out this

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25886883-401,00.html
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PRIME Minister Kevin Rudd has been labelled a serial killer on US TV for approving the culling of feral camels.

Erin Burnett, an anchor on American financial news channel CNBC, launched a verbal attack targetting Rudd following his government's decision to spend $A19 million to cull feral camels in the outback.
"There is a serial killer in Australia and we are going to put a picture up so we can see who it is," a stern-faced Burnett said during a segment on CNBC on Tuesday.
Watch it here, she gets going on krudd at about 3.15..

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1204777023&play=1


talk about right out of PeTA's or the humane society hand book completely laughably ill-informed. Camels aren't native to Australia. They are a feral pest, living in some of the remotest and most environmentally-vulnerable parts of this country  and fast growing in numbers

they just don't understand how bad we get it with feral animals 


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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 08:10:27 AM »
They're 2,000 ilbs. I would say .338 and up. Probably a .375 H@H on the ground, .338 at range. Bow hunters are on their own. ;D
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mate   a 30/30  or 308 will do the trick,      just  get them in the brain box   and down they go  



the following pics  are from the Pilbara aria in Western Australia   South of Broom  abour 3700k's away (2300 Miles )  from my place   :o  and that is the state next to SA  hehe











also that way  we have problems with not just the Camels  

there is also Pigs / Goats  /  Brumbies / Donkeys  / Scrubbers ( Scrub Bulls ) / Water Buff / Dogs,  to start with

here are a few more pics from a good mate I have up that way








the lucky bugger   has the easy life hehe ( when he is not working his arse off )     they also use the meat from the Camel for a feed  he was teasing me on how good the Camel steaks and burgers he makes are
you should see the fish this bloke also catches  makes you jealous

I will stick with my Roo meat for a while  hehe

I have also emailed him the link  of this thread  :)  
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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 08:14:41 AM »
Shoot anything that moves!
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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 08:17:33 AM »
Seems a shame to waste a perfectly good horse (though they go make good eating). No way to capture and domesticate? It just seems profitable as a decent saddle horse is about 1K and up in these parts.
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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 08:21:02 AM »
Seems a shame to waste a perfectly good horse (though they go make good eating). No way to capture and domesticate? It just seems profitable as a decent saddle horse is about 1K and up in these parts.
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they do capture some  mostly on the eastern side of the country   however you can not imagine how many are up there

there are hundreds of thousands up there   just like a lot of the other feral animals   they have gotten out of control

you name it   they are an issue
it is really the native animals ( apart from Roos ) that are an issue for numbers  and they are the ones that need protecting
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Re: Screw Pythons, I'm Going for Camels!
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 08:28:19 AM »
IS the meat used for anything or do ya just let it feed the buzzards?  I don't really have a problem either way, over population must be controlled especially non-native species.
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