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That may be true in YOUR State, but in NH and Kentucky we have the Constitutional right to armed rebellion.
While it may your constitutional right to have an armed rebellion I think you could expect an armed response from someone in charge someplace.  I suspect that there may be case law in Hew Hampshire that says all available means of redress must have taken place before you can exercise your right to revolution.  I don’t think you would get too far running through the streets declaring revolution.  Of course, as long as you are prepared to pay the personal price feel free to begin any time.

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http://www.harbornet.com/rights/newhamp.txt

Art 10th  Government  being  instituted for  the common  benefit, pro-
          tection, and security, of  the whole community, and  not for
          the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or
          class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are
          perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all
          other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may,  and
          of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new govern-
          ment.  The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary  pow-
          er, and oppression, is  absurd, slavish, and destructive  of
          the good and happiness of mankind.


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While it may your constitutional right to have an armed rebellion I think you could expect an armed response from someone in charge someplace.  I suspect that there may be case law in Hew Hampshire that says all available means of redress must have taken place before you can exercise your right to revolution.  I don’t think you would get too far running through the streets declaring revolution.  Of course, as long as you are prepared to pay the personal price feel free to begin any time.

Just like there is case law for "reasonable" gun control laws, "reasonable" restrictions on free speech, "reasonable" implementations of eminent domain, "reasonable" restrictions on peaceable assembly, and a whole host of other "reasonable" laws. The pre-eminent law says otherwise, however.
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do this to others and I require the same from them"

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http://www.harbornet.com/rights/newhamp.txt

Art 10th  Government  being  instituted for  the common  benefit, pro-
          tection, and security, of  the whole community, and  not for
          the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or
          class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are
          perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all
          other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may,  and
          of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new govern-
          ment.  The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary  pow-
          er, and oppression, is  absurd, slavish, and destructive  of
          the good and happiness of mankind.


I'm not disagreeing that you have the right of revolution.  I'm saying it is foolish to think no one would object to tombogan exercising your right to revolution.  If you think otherwise, Good Luck!  I hope you have a lot of body armor, can run real fast and, if you survive, a good attorney who can assist you plead temporary insanity.

Case Law: NH Right to Revolution
http://books.google.com/books?id=IPiyYUjHYq8C&pg=PA53&lpg=PA53&dq=case+law+new+hampshire+right+to+revolution&source=bl&ots=A-hD8xXlTF&sig=gga_8LbaKazoMfCOv_ewj4fur0I&hl=en&ei=6Y-ASsaZCYjiMLHpvekC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false
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 Some more interesting quotes I found while reading through it:
http://www.harbornet.com/rights/newhamp.txt
  Art 2  All men have certain natural, essential, and inherent rights
          - among which are, the enjoying and defending life and  lib-
          erty:

  Art 7th   The people of  this state have the sole and exclusive  right
          of governing themselves as  a free, sovereign, and  indepen-
          dent state;
  and do,  and forever  hereafter shall, exercise
          and enjoy every  power, jurisdiction, and  right, pertaining
          thereto, which  is not,  or may  not hereafter  be, by  them
          expressly  delegated  to  the  United  States  of America in
          congress assembled.
Art 11  No
          person shall have the  right to vote under  the constitution
          of this state who has been convicted of treason, bribery  or
          any willful violation of the election laws of this state  or
          of the United States;

Art 30th  The freedom  of deliberation, speech, and debate,  in either This one kind of shoots some holes in the "limited free speach"
          house of the legislature, is  so essential to the rights  of            Comments in other threads
          the people, that it cannot be the foundation of any  action,
          complaint,  or  prosecution,  in  any  other  court or place
          whatsoever
Art 34th  No person can, in any case, be subjected to law martial,  or
          to any  pains or  penalties by  virtue of  that law,  except
          those employed in the army  or navy, and except the  militia
          in actual service, but by authority of the legislature.
Art 36th  Economy being a most essential virtue in all states,  espec-
          ially in a  young one, no  pension shall be  granted, but in
          consideration of actual services; and such pensions ought to
          be granted with great caution, by the legislature, and never
          for more than one year at a time.
Art 38th  A frequent  recurrence to the fundamental principles  of the
          constitution, and a  constant adherence to  justice, modera-
          tion, temperance,  industry, frugality,  and all  the social
          virtues, are indispensably necessary to preserve the  bless-
          ings  of  liberty  and  good  government;


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 The link didn't work, I tried Googling it but got everything but.
I'm thinking that the unruly "Town hall meetings" and Tea parties (which have NOT been unruly ) may to some extent fall under this article as well as a couple others.
As to body armor, I think you need to wake up and sniff the political winds. You don't need much body armor with the type of support I see growing for radical change.
If you check your history books you will see that radical change generally sees the former regime exiled or dead.

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Just like there is case law for "reasonable" gun control laws, "reasonable" restrictions on free speech, "reasonable" implementations of eminent domain, "reasonable" restrictions on peaceable assembly, and a whole host of other "reasonable" laws. The pre-eminent law says otherwise, however.

Again, if ever you want to challege case law there is a process to do so.  That is what Heller is doing.  It is what the NRA does.

Again to go back to the OP as I said, the investigation of what was said by Haa is due process.  The complaint might be nefarious in nature and harmful in intent. However, that is our process.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies." (Groucho Marx)

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Again, if ever you want to challege case law there is a process to do so.  That is what Heller is doing.  It is what the NRA does.

Again to go back to the OP as I said, the investigation of what was said by Haa is due process.  The complaint might be nefarious in nature and harmful in intent. However, that is our process.


But we were drifting so nicely.  ;D

 

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