Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others

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HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - A New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers and judges was trained by the FBI on how to be deliberately provocative, his attorney said Tuesday.

Hal Turner worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an "agent provocateur" and was taught by the agency "what he could say that wouldn't be crossing the line," defense attorney Michael Orozco said.

"His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest," Orozco said.

Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied on radical right-wing organizations, but the defense has said Turner was not working for the FBI when he allegedly made threats against Connecticut legislators and wrote that three federal judges in Illinois deserved to die.

"But if you compare anything that he did say when he was operating, there was no difference. No difference whatsoever," Orozco said.

Special Agent Ross Rice, a spokesman for the FBI in Chicago, said he would not comment on or even confirm Turner's relationship with the FBI.

Orozco spoke to reporters after a court hearing in Hartford on Tuesday. Turner, 47, of North Bergen, N.J., did not appear, because he is in federal custody in Illinois. His arraignment on the Connecticut charges was rescheduled to Oct. 19.

In June, Turner urged his readers to "take up arms" against Connecticut lawmakers and suggested government officials should "obey the Constitution or die," because he was angry over legislation—later withdrawn—that would have given lay members of Roman Catholic churches more control over their parish's finances.

He wrote in Internet postings the same month that the Illinois federal appeals judges "deserve to be killed" because they issued a ruling that upheld ordinances in Chicago and suburban Oak Park banning handguns. He included their photos and the room numbers of their chambers at the courthouse.

Orozco officially joined Turner's defense team in the Connecticut case on Tuesday, with approval from Superior Court Judge David Gold. Orozco said his Newark, N.J.-based firm has been representing Turner for the past five years, including during his FBI informant years.

Turner's Connecticut attorney, Matthew R. Potter, said it's too early to tell which trial will move forward first. Orozco said he plans First Amendment defenses in both cases.

Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Chicago, said the office would not comment on Orozco's statements.

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[fightingquaker13]

COUNTERINTELPRO in the sixties, under the  crossdresing J. Edgar Hoover, did the same thing. Find an oranization, the Civil Rights Movement, Anti-War Movement, SDLS etc that you deem to be a threat, or just polititically inconvienient. Infiltrate it with spies. This is a problem, but so far, no harm, no foul. The problem was, they didn't stop there. Their agents actively encouraged folks into illegal activities. "Screw the march! Let's plant a bomb! Who's with me"? Ilegal, immoral, unAmerican and bone stupid as hell. All brought to you by a pervert who liked to dress in women's clothing and hang around in bars. The song remains the same. Beware the guy who advocates violence, he's probably a narc. Tom Bogan............what have you to say for yourself sir?
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[tombogan03884]

  I've gotten a lot of good ideas from reading history,   FQ is right (although he left out the American Indian Movement ) But it did not end with Hoover, Ruby ridge was a classic example. Randy Weaver was coerced into sawing off a  barrel on a shotgun he was selling, because he needed the money, by a federal "agent provocateur", they then arrested him on the weapons charge in an effort to get him to spy on white separatists that he was acquainted with (NOT a MEMBER, just knew some of the people )
That sort of thing CONTINUES to happen in drug investigations.
Curse you FQ, you made me forget what I was originally going to post.

FTA "In June, Turner urged his readers to "take up arms" against Connecticut lawmakers and suggested government officials should "obey the Constitution or die,"
He wrote in Internet postings the same month that the Illinois federal appeals judges "deserve to be killed" because they issued a ruling that upheld ordinances in Chicago and suburban Oak Park banning handguns.
Both groups are violating their oaths of office, The judges are actively helping criminals, that's treason.
It's traditional to execute traitors, so it sounds reasonable to me.
 The only thing I take issue with is that he limits it to Conn. Politicians, and Shitcago judges. I don't think ANY of them should feel safe.

[fightingquaker13]

 I've gotten a lot of good ideas from reading history,   FQ is right (although he left out the American Indian Movement ) But it did not end with Hoover, Ruby ridge was a classic example. Randy Weaver was coerced into sawing off a  barrel on a shotgun he was selling, because he needed the money, by a federal "agent provocateur", they then arrested him on the weapons charge in an effort to get him to spy on white separatists that he was acquainted with (NOT a MEMBER, just knew some of the people )
That sort of thing CONTINUES to happen in drug investigations.

Damn straight. This sort of thing happens all the time with drug crimes. Remember 10 grams of crack will get you the same mandatory 5 yrs. as 100 grams of powder. The judge has no discretion.If you want to screw someone as a Fed? You say cook the 100 grams into crack for delivery (15 mins in the micro-wave with some baking soda). If you're pissed? I'll meet you for the drop at the Burger King across the street from the local high school(within 1000 yds, an extra 5 years). If you're really pissed? I think my rivals may have made you, why not send your ten year old cousin Tyrone since they won't know him and tell him to bring a gun, just in case. (tack on an extra thirty). End total, close to one hundred years on a 5 year charge.
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[tombogan03884]

 You CAN be an evil bastard, There's hope for you yet 

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