Author Topic: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers  (Read 4587 times)

ericire12

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7926
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« on: August 19, 2009, 08:09:18 AM »
The second holy shit moment here is that this story is being covered by The Washington Post!



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/18/AR2009081803416.html?hpid=topnews
Quote
Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, said people are entitled to carry weapons outside such events if local laws allow it. "There are laws that govern firearms that are done state or locally," he said. "Those laws don't change when the president comes to your state or locality."

Anti-gun campaigners disagreed with Gibbs's comments, voicing fears that volatile debates over health-care reform are more likely to turn violent if gun control is not enforced.

"What Gibbs said is wrong," said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "Individuals carrying loaded weapons at these events require constant attention from police and Secret Service officers. It's crazy to bring a gun to these events. It endangers everybody."
Everything I needed to learn in life I learned from Country Music.

MikeBjerum

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11007
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 1175
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 08:19:58 AM »
As much as I like what that says, I still don't trust this Administration.  What they are really supporting here is the exercising of Rights and doing what is legal.  They are showing respect for a group that acted respectful.  This does not mean that they won't try to enact restrictions and bans in the future. 

Beware the false sense of comfort and security this can build!
If I appear taller than other men it is because I am standing on the shoulders of others.

ericire12

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7926
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 08:23:37 AM »
As much as I like what that says, I still don't trust this Administration.  What they are really supporting here is the exercising of Rights and doing what is legal.  They are showing respect for a group that acted respectful.  This does not mean that they won't try to enact restrictions and bans in the future. 

Beware the false sense of comfort and security this can build!

100% true. What I see as so great about this is that the current state of our country is such that they feel that they have to make this statement. Its good news for our side!
Everything I needed to learn in life I learned from Country Music.

Paraguy

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 372
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 08:25:32 AM »
Even a broken clock is right 2 times a day.
Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

tumblebug

  • Guest
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 09:09:02 AM »
Did not see any SEIU tee shirts or did I miss them. ::)

Sponsor

  • Guest
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #5 on: Today at 09:18:12 AM »

WatchManUSA

  • NRA Life Member - Join the NRA!
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 951
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 09:25:37 AM »
Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, said people are entitled to carry weapons outside such events if local laws allow it. "There are laws that govern firearms that are done state or locally," he said. "Those laws don't change when the president comes to your state or locality."

His statement is not an endorsement of carry.  Rather it is recognition of the law.

Under his breath he was heard to say, "We'll change that soon enough."
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies." (Groucho Marx)

r_w

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 947
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 09:58:58 AM »
Rather it is recognition of the law.

That in itself is HUGE. 
"Why are you carrying a pistol?  Expecting trouble?"

"No Maam.  If I was expecting trouble, I'd have a rifle."

WatchManUSA

  • NRA Life Member - Join the NRA!
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 951
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 12:53:47 PM »
That in itself is HUGE. 

Not really, it was recognition that they couldn't do anything about it - for now.  I guess I'm becoming more jaded.  Can you imagine if they had said anything negative about the rights to lawfully carry?  These guys are way to smart to express what they really think in plain language.  Everything is nuanced with double speak so they can deny what is meant by what is said hiding what they really mean.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies." (Groucho Marx)

blackwolfe

  • A Simple Man
  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1844
  • DRTV Ranger
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2009, 02:05:30 PM »
I don't believe or trust what was said.  When "they" feel the time is right they will strike.

Didn't see any support for Joseph Calanchini in Denver who was never formally charged in court or for John Noble (aka Mtn Jack) in PA who was aquitted on all charges.  This was just a political opportunity to try to gain trust by parsing some words, seeming to offer support.
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. "    Abraham Lincoln
 


Wolfe

fightingquaker13

  • Top Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11894
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Holy S**t -- Obama speaks out in favor of the open carriers
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2009, 02:27:28 PM »
I am about to stand up and take my shellacking on Obama as I have missed my quota for the week. The point is this. Obama doesn't really care about guns any more than Reagan did about abortion. Yes, they both said the right things to the base who did care. Yes, they both appointed anti-choice or anti-gun judges. But at the end of the day, any excuse to say "its a state's rights issue" was eagerly siezed upon to pass the hot potato. It wasn't part of their main agenda. They both just wanted the issue to go away or become someone else's problem.
FQ13

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk