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Sorry, Mandatory Gun Registration Is Constitutional
« on: August 24, 2009, 05:20:53 PM »
From CBS news, and from a self-professed "libertarian" who just happens to live in San Francisco. Thrown out here like a piece of raw meat to the lions to pick apart. Enjoy!!  ;D

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/21/taking_liberties/entry5258192.shtml

FTA: "Mandatory gun regulation has long been the bête noire of Second Amendment advocates, who worry that it's the final step before firearm confiscation.

The surprise is that, even after last year's landmark Supreme Court ruling on gun rights, mandatory registration could be constitutional. It may not be the wisest public policy. It may not be practical. But after the D.C. v. Heller decision, it also may not violate the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

That question is at the heart of a second lawsuit underway against the city of Washington, D.C. It also arose last week when the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago said that the Second Amendment poses no barrier to mandatory regulation because it does not "invalidate any and every regulation on gun use."

Even some pro-gun scholars and advocates reluctantly agree. "I think under the Heller decision, registration would be constitutional," Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation in Bellevue, Wash., told CBSNews.com this week. "It doesn't make it good public policy."  "
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Re: Sorry, Mandatory Gun Registration Is Constitutional
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 05:25:32 PM »
 Under the ministrations of a revisionist Court it may, by the letter of the law, be Constitutional. But even the most shallow investigation of the thinking of the Founding Fathers would show that the Spirit of the law would find such invasion of privacy totally abhorrent.

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Re: Sorry, Mandatory Gun Registration Is Constitutional
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 05:27:25 PM »
It may be Constitutional but just the thought of registration.................
“What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that the people preserve the spirit of resistance?”

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Re: Sorry, Mandatory Gun Registration Is Constitutional
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 05:33:47 PM »
 I just AIN'T going to do it. F&^k em.
All they can do is kill me, they can never defeat me unless I allow it.

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Re: Sorry, Mandatory Gun Registration Is Constitutional
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 06:05:35 PM »
He can suck on this:

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
(Tench Coxe in ‘Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution' under the Pseudonym ‘A Pennsylvanian' in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1)


"The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime." - Miller v. U.S. 230 F 2nd 486, 489.

and a big precedent:

"There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional Rights."
- Snerer vs. Cullen, 481 F. 94


"The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision,
one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for re-election and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."
Justice Alex Kozinski, US 9th Circuit Court, 2003 ( minority dissent in which the majority has "lost the courage to oppose")

"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized.
Jeff Cooper

I just AIN'T going to do it. F&^k em.
All they can do is kill me, they can never defeat me unless I allow it.

When you hear TW lost his NON REGISTERED GUNS!, you'll know TW went down fighting...

Usurping Bastards!!!!!
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Sorry, Mandatory Gun Registration Is Constitutional
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tombogan03884

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Re: Sorry, Mandatory Gun Registration Is Constitutional
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 07:00:45 PM »
From TW  "When you hear TW lost his NON REGISTERED GUNS!, you'll know TW went down fighting..."

If we do hear about it it will be word of mouth or something on the net. Or else you will be portrayed as an "anti Government psycho".
Those of us of course will be able to figure out the truth, if not the details.

From TW's post;
   
"The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for re-election and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."
Justice Alex Kozinski, US 9th Circuit Court, 2003 ( minority dissent in which the majority has "lost the courage to oppose")

We are not far from the conditions cited above NOW. 2 specifics, "Silencing those who protest", we have the near total lack of Media coverage of anti big govt. Tea parties, the ridicule and name calling aimed at those opposed to Obamacare, and the intended intimidation of the flag@whitehouse .gov rat line.
"Courts that have lost the courage to oppose", How about the refusal by courts to address the legitimate concerns about Obama's citizenship. If there is nothing to it why has he spent well over a million dollars to fight it rather than just producing the documentation to shut us up ? FQ always says "wouldn't the Clinton team have looked into that ? " Why did BO appoint some one who hates him as Sec. of State ? Maybe she DID find something.
Couple the above with the collection of communists, flakes, and outright criminals that he has surrounded himself with, and the socialist policies the has, or is attempting to ram through Congress and there is more than sufficient cause for the populace to rise up in arms.

 

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