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slugs and chokes
« on: August 31, 2009, 06:56:15 PM »
can slugs be shot out of fixed modified chokes and modified choke tubes? just wondering for quick home defense if unable to change out choke tube. don't own rifled choke tube, or slug barrel.

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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2009, 07:13:44 PM »
No, No and No... welcome turkeydad. Slugs turn a shotgun into a bullet firing firearm. Albeit a large one. chokes can damage the firearm, and/or the shooter.

Slugs can be fired from "full cylinder bore" NO CHOKE actions, do not take the chance on firing a Remington Slugger through a barrel with any type of choke.

Chokes are designed for "shot" and pattern,....launching a 2 3/4" or 3" sabot slug/bullet, needs all the barrel it can get.

For SD, check the archives here, including Rob Pincus's analysis on home defense shotguns.. No. 2, through No. 9 shot at SD ranges, within a home, are totally adequate. Usually less than 21 feet.

I like No. 2, 9 pellet Winchester Super X 2 3/4", staggered with No. 4, 21 pellet, with slugs as the last couple in my Rem 870..

It has to hold them off long enough for the wife to get the safe open,... Unless its Zombies, it should be good enough.



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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2009, 07:36:14 PM »
Hey TW, love ya, but maybe you misunderstood the question.

Modern shotguns can shoot slugs from any choke choice, maybe not to its best benefit, but safely. As Tw is mentioning, slugs are definitely not the 1st choice in HD or SD, past 20 yrds then maybe, if the situation demands more accuracy or hard hitting projectile, like shooting through a car door.
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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2009, 07:42:44 PM »
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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2009, 07:49:09 PM »
Rifled slugs can be shot safely through any choke in a modern shotgun, the "rifling" on the slug isn't there to impart spin, but to swage down when going through a tight choked barrel. Think about it, a slug is made of soft lead, the choke and barrel is made out of hardened steel, which is going to give first.
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Re: slugs and chokes
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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2009, 08:05:16 PM »
It's okay to shoot slugs out of any choke except TURKEY chokes. You'll probably get better performance out of an improved cylinder.
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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 08:12:14 PM »
I shoot slugs through an improved cylinder choke all the time with no ill effects.

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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 10:49:01 PM »
I don't know about all slugs, but many are in the .50 caliber range.

If a 12ga. open bore is around .720" give or take (?), with a decrease in diameter with each choke designation from Open (.720") down to Full (.680" ?) then slugs should be OK.

However, not all dimensions are exactly the same from one manufacturer to another and may vary by several thousandths, but should not be effectual.

If you have screw-in chokes, check 'em....it's stamped into to choke. Look on the slug box and it should give the slug diameter.

If you have a regular barrel, check with the manufacturer for actual choke dimensions.....OR, measure with a dial caliper.


Some additional info:

http://www.kwacs.org.uk/barrels&choke.htm

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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 12:03:19 AM »
Mossberg 500, 28" smoothbore modified chock barrel, Remington 2 3/4" saboted slugs, 1" groups at 100 yards consistantly.  WITH WITNESSES!  ;D


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Re: slugs and chokes
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 01:00:48 AM »
Mossberg 500, 28" smoothbore modified chock barrel, Remington 2 3/4" saboted slugs, 1" groups at 100 yards consistantly.  WITH WITNESSES!  ;D



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