Opinion on open carry.

[Pathfinder]

Point in case:  As popular and impractical as they are, if OC were legal do you think for ONE second you could go to a mall and NOT see several idiots walking around carrying AR's!?!?!  And you KNOW they'd be peeing their pants waiting and looking for an excuse to open fire!!!

Given some of the retards I've seen at the local ranges, yeah, maybe, for a short while. Until good people intervene and show them the error of their ways. But I attribute that to a fundamental lack of training in most recreational shooters these days.

OTOH, I would open carry for 3 reasons:

1. Part of an OC protest
2. If I were coming off a hunting trip with a pistol attached, or perhaps off the range wearing a sidearm for defense
3. If I wanted to.

None of these should be illegal.

[MikeBjerum]

Soooooo, your point is we should have no laws at all, applying to anything, and function under free will at all times in all situations?

Pull the stick out of your butt!  I'm not disagreeing, or argueing, just trying to understand!  And waiting to hear a fair reason for me / you / anybody to tote a 12 gauge into an elementry school.

The elementary school is attached to the High School; the schools allow use by Scouting, 4-H and FFA (actually a part of the educational system);  shooting sports is a part of all of these; and use of firearms in both education and participation used in these buildings.

How many fewer shootings do we have in schools today (per capita) with all the restrictions on our rights as compared to up through the 70's when we had guns and ammo in our cars and even put our guns in our lockers or the school office for safe keeping during school hours.

[1911 Junkie]

I apologize, and am VERY glad that NO I dont have actual instances, though its only because OC is still illegal!

It varies from state to state. If you don't know what you are talking about STFU.

I'm going to watch the Steeler game now. Later.

[TAB]

this year with in 1 month a small town in Utah had two NDs.   so they do happen, both of them were 100% avoidable.

so lets not pretend that every one that Carrys is perfect. ( these were CCW holders) luckly no one was hurt.  


like it or not, gun owners as a whole will be judged on the actions of a few.

[Badgersmilk]

TAB is 100% right.  The whole will be judged by the few.  Well said!

Still just waiting for a good, legitimate reason...  Is anyone else surprised I havent seen one?

The ones getting all pissy and spouting off here are doing a PERFECT job proving that people in this country dont have enough self control to even consider legal OC.   Good job.

[Sponsor]

[david86440]

I apologize, and am VERY glad that NO I dont have actual instances, though its only because OC is still illegal!

Did you not see open carry in AZ and NH on the news recently when they showed up at the Obama rallies carrying?

TAB is 100% right.  The whole will be judged by the few.  Well said!

Still just waiting for a good, legitimate reason...  Is anyone else surprised I havent seen one?

 

The 2nd Amendment is the legitimate reason.

[Badgersmilk]

I'll agree with the 2nd ammendment being a reason to change the law.  And it's a GREAT REASON!

Because "it's legal to", or because "I want to", arent very good reasons to OC though.

I dont mean to question why do we not get rid of the law, I mean to question peoples reasons for wanting to OC.

Though seeing how little control people here have over their emotions makes it REALLY easy to see why the law is needed.

[twyacht]

Substitute Drivers License issuance for OC... There are folks throughout this country, that CAN'T DRIVE. They are an accident waiting to happen, and have no business on public streets. BUT if you meet a very minimal threshold of competence, you get a DL.

And Driving is a Privilege, NOT a Right.

So in regards to guns and OC, malls post signs, and any establishment that posts "NO FIREARMS BEYOND THIS POINT" have to be obeyed..Or one is in Violation of the law.

Is there a MINORITY of idiots and untrained yahoos that have guns? Of course,... but the Minority cannot infringe on my Right, not privilege, to carry openly or concealed.

Once that happens , the Second Amendment become relegated to a privilege! Decided by political asshats on how, what, when, and in what manner.

All we can do is encourage new gun owners to get training, practice, recognize bad habits, and responsibility. The anti's warned of Cowboy Shootout's on the streets when CCW laws were passed, when in fact, crime went down...

Give individuals more credit regarding OC, the yahoo's will realize that violating the law whether OC or CC, will get them prosecuted.

I obey the law, and exercise my right to do so. If Fl. passed an OC law, stores that were uncomfortable would post a sign that has to be followed. Banks, schools, malls, gov't bldg's etc,.... are gun free zones, anyone who violates that SHOULD be arrested.

[TAB]

thats just it, people don't obey the no gun signs,  I'm not talking about crimals, I'm talking about gun owners, and many members of this forum.  They have said, time and time again that its not illegal for me to ignore the signs I will.  Every time they do that, they are violating some one elses right to what is brought on thier property( I'm not talking about public parking lots, but inside places of biz)    Thats why I love laws like TX 30.06,  it makes it crimal trespass. 

 
So if gun owners don't respect the rights/wishs of others,  why should other respect thier rights/wishes?

[PegLeg45]

thats just it, people don't obey the no gun signs,  I'm not talking about crimals, I'm talking about gun owners, and many members of this forum.  They have said, time and time again that its not illegal for me to ignore the signs I will.  Every time they do that, they are violating some one elses right to what is brought on thier property( I'm not talking about public parking lots, but inside places of biz)    Thats why I love laws like TX 30.06,  it makes it crimal trespass. 

 
So if gun owners don't respect the rights/wishs of others,  why should other respect thier rights/wishes?

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