Alone in the Wild

[PegLeg45]

"Rabbit starvation, also referred to as protein poisoning, is the form of acute malnutrition caused by excess consumption of any lean meat (e.g. rabbit) coupled with a lack of other sources of nutrients usually in combination with other stressors, such as severe cold or dry environment. Symptoms include diarrhea, headache, fatigue, low blood pressure and heart rate, and a vague discomfort and hunger that can only be satisfied by consumption of fat or carbohydrates."

Better find another alternate food source....

Stroud does a good job, I enjoy his show too.  I've been aware that he's had assistance from early on in the episodes.  Once he was rescued from a local tribe due to being stalked by a black panther, and not the Chicago kind!   

Also, as a side note on the high protein diet, if you are taking in excessively high amounts of protein, you need even higher amounts of water to flush the kidneys. My doctor had me on a protein diet during physical therapy to help build up my muscle strength and he warned me of this. Something in the protein builds up in the kidneys and you need the extra water to keep them from shutting down. I don't remember how long it would take.

I do understand that in a 'survival at all cost' situation, that is the last thing you would be worrying about, but just wanted to throw it out there.

[tombogan03884]

Also, as a side note on the high protein diet, if you are taking in excessively high amounts of protein, you need even higher amounts of water to flush the kidneys. My doctor had me on a protein diet during physical therapy to help build up my muscle strength and he warned me of this. Something in the protein builds up in the kidneys and you need the extra water to keep them from shutting down. I don't remember how long it would take.

I do understand that in a 'survival at all cost' situation, that is the last thing you would be worrying about, but just wanted to throw it out there.

Thanks for posting that, I have to argue with your closing comment though.
" in a 'survival at all cost' situation," having your kidneys shut down would constitute a FAIL.
Kind of like freezing to death on a survival course.

[PegLeg45]

Thanks for posting that, I have to argue with your closing comment though.
" in a 'survival at all cost' situation," having your kidneys shut down would constitute a FAIL.
Kind of like freezing to death on a survival course.

I thought about revising it, but I was originally thinking of 'survival' in the short term of a few days......I think it takes a while for the protein to effect the kidneys.....I'll check and get back.


***EDIT***
It seems to be a long-term issue when it is the only contributing factor, however, some other factors can speed it up such as diabetes and high blood pressure..

There are three major damage mechanisms by which progressive deterioration of the Kidneys occurs.

The first is by direct damage of the fine capilaries by the high Glucose levels associated with Diabetes and with Hyperinsulinemia. The glucose directly causes an increased permeability and the capillaries leak and fail to perform their filtering action. Severe and extensive damage to these fine capilliaries is thought to be irreversable at this time.

A leading cause of Renal Failure for the Hyperinsulinemic patient is Renal Thrombosis (blood clotting in the Renal vein).

The high levels of Insulin in the blood directly cause Atherosclerosis of the Renal artery. This mechanism is discussed on our Atherosclerosis page.

A related complicating factor is caused by the high levels of dietary protein to which many sufferers from Diabetes and Hyperinsulinemia resort. This protein, when it is metabolized, results in high levels of Ammonia . Chronic high levels of Ammonia, mostly changed into Urea by the Liver, nevertheless directly damage the fine capillaries. Also there are known other negative effects in the tubular basement membranes of the Kidneys that are directly caused by certain proteins.

Unless normal blood Glucose levels can be maintained without resorting to a high protein diet, the progress of Hyperinsulinemia and its related Type II diabetes invariably leads to Renal (Kidney) failure and the need for Dialysis. In our special report Insulin: Our Silent Killer we thoroughly discuss the dietary factors that are especially important to the diabetic. This High Protein-Kidney Damage relationship is potentially one of the most important to the recovering diabetic. During the recovery process, which may last for several months, it isn't smart to wreck the Kidneys by resorting to a high protein diet. This is uniquely important because, while much of the damage done by Type II diabetes and Hyperinsulinemia is reversable, all of it is not. In particular when the basement membranes of the Kidneys are destroyed, the destruction is currently thought to be irreversable.


http://www.healingmatters.com/kidney.htm

[Badgersmilk]

I'm not sure where only eathing rabbits came up.  I'm thinking rabbits, squirrels, and fish, along with berries, leaves, bark, roots,, cat tails (the plant ), and the like make a pretty rounded diet.    And you'd be fine long term.  I've known plenty of people who ate nothing but tuna, with VERY little to supliment it for weeks and weeks to loose weight when we were wrestling in high school.  SUPER low carb.'s!

[tombogan03884]

 Fish has oil (fat) Rabbit is to lean, squirrel I don't know about.

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[Badgersmilk]

The rabbit's and squirrel I've had were very different types of meat, but both "red", so I'd guess the same result would come of eating only either of them.  In another thread I posted about "SAS Survival Guide" being an excellent book.  In it he teaches all the types of things there are to eat in the woods.  "other than ignorance of it being there, there is no excuse for starvation in the woods with the bounty that's all around you.".  He teaches about things to eat all over the world, anytime of year, that'll keep you alive long term.  I really believe ANYBODY could survive ED's situation with enough mental fortitude, and that book.

There's so much to learn and remember in there you (or at least I) need to re-read it once a year or so.  Gonna start through it again this weekend.

[Badgersmilk]

Tonight at nine.  He's starving to the point he starts talking to bug's, and halucinating.  I think this is where they pull him out.

[Badgersmilk]

It's 8:30!  You still got time to go get some beer and chips and watch this guy starve!   

[tombogan03884]

BM, Your a real a$$hole.
But at times like this your MY kind of a$$hole  

[ericire12]

BM, Your a real a$$hole.
But at times like this your MY kind of a$$hole 

Tom is gay!