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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2007, 10:13:27 AM »
...the Glocks are like the old Dodge Polara...sturdy, reliable, lean, and mean, with no frills and not a lot of style. NOT a cadillac, NOT a mustang. White bread. Spaghetti with salt and butter.

Couldn't say it better. Fewer parts, easy field stripping and maintenance, tons of holsters, and lots of parts. I love the 1911, but never look forward to cleaning it after a day at the range. WIth a Glock, I'm done in one third the time. I've owned many Glocks, and the only failure I ever had was a bad WinClean round (wouldn't chamber in anything). That said, Glocks fit my hand perfectly, so other guns can feel funny.

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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2007, 12:31:49 PM »
Couldn't say it better. Fewer parts, easy field stripping and maintenance, tons of holsters, and lots of parts. I love the 1911, but never look forward to cleaning it after a day at the range. WIth a Glock, I'm done in one third the time. I've owned many Glocks, and the only failure I ever had was a bad WinClean round (wouldn't chamber in anything). That said, Glocks fit my hand perfectly, so other guns can feel funny.

Guess you never cleaned or counted the parts in a Makarov.  :D
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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2007, 01:24:09 PM »
What I have against Glock’s

They all bite my hand with the slide. (Ok the web of my had is fat)
If you don’t grip the Glock tight they will not function (Female shooters suffer with this- I know training)
One size grip does not fit all
Non drop free mags – Drop free mags –no no really drop free mags
Glock can be very difficult to deal with as a company
Factory sights suck


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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2007, 02:12:02 PM »
Guess you never cleaned or counted the parts in a Makarov.  :D

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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2007, 02:08:06 AM »
I don't know why I feel this way - maybe because I grew up with a "fear" of firearms - but I have never felt comfortable with the trigger safety system on Glocks.  I have an XD which is similar, but somehow I feel more safe with the dual passive safeties.

I only have fired a couple glocks (21 I think) and they didn't especially impress me.  Someday I might buy one - but they are low on my list.  Not knocking them - I just never felt a burning desire to have one like I did with my Sig and my XD.  Next on my list is probably a 1911 variant, a revolver, and an AR-15... (or carbine)



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Re: Glock Anyone?
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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2007, 02:42:16 AM »
I've only sold 1 gun in my life... It was a glock.   One of those deals where the price was too good to pass up.  Put about 100 rounds thru it, over several trips to the range.  It was not for me.
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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2007, 08:47:08 AM »
Thanks for all the responses so far. It's been interesting to hear all the different views.  ;)

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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2007, 04:43:16 PM »
I don't care for Glocks based on the grip and safety record. I prefer not to have to pull the trigger to disassemble.

My preferences are several SIGs, XD 45, S&W M19, S&W  M36, and of course the M1911. There is no preferred order in the list. I don't feel the need to carry much anymore. But the M19, M36, and M1911 have all been with me in combat or combat zones in past conflicts. But the only shots I took in combat were with the M2 Carbine, great weapon for an officer at the time, the M79, and that junky AR 15 that I borrowed from the Air Force Forward Air Controller for one mission.

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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2007, 08:17:18 PM »
Hey bill , you dont have to pull the trigger to disassemble, dont know where you got that from
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Re: Glock Anyone?
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2007, 08:56:05 PM »
I'm a big Glock fan, did not start out that way. I purchased a first gen 17 when they first appeared, I did not like the grip angle and it did not group well enough for me, I'm a revolver shooter and I am spoiled with good revolver accuracy. Next I bought a 17L, as one of my fellow competitors was loading it up to major ( which uspsa promptly shut down ) and again it did not group well enough for me. Next a 19, well it did group well, 1 3/4" at 25 yards for 10 shot groups, my boss wanted it bad enough that I sold it to him. Next came the model 21, it has become my constant companion on the street and in the woods, my requirements are a pistol that will shoot under 2.5" groups @ 25 yards, it does that with ease, for those who don't know, the .45 caliber is the only Glock barrel that is rifled conventionally, it's diet has been 98% h&g-68, 185grn lead swc for a very long time. I did change the recoil spring to the 40 S&W spring for the lighter bullets. The internals have been polished, 3.5lb connector installed, feed ramp polished, mepro light adjustable night sights, ( I like them for the very tall front sight. ) and a grip reduction done by yours truly. SEE Pic


Next I won a model 34, it does shoot well and I made it into a competition pistol. It has a 2 3/4 lb trigger, custom stippling, Carver mount with a C More sight.


Next I won a model 20, 10mm. Started off bad, but as I play with handloads, it is coming into it's own. I did a grip reduction, 3.5 lb connector and Bomar sights, as this it meant to be a hunting pistol. No pics as it is disassembled on the bench, and I'm trying to remove the truck bedliner material I used to coat it, really good grip surface, but ugly, even for me.

Next a 2nd gen model 17, thought I would try it again, and it shoots well, and has become the bedside gun. However, I take the top end of my model 34, with Warren Sights, and put it onto the 17 and voila, I have a 6" top end for practical/tactical or IDPA matches. Functions perfectly, and shoots just as well as my 34.


These are all my Glocks, I really don't understand releasing the trigger for take down as a drawback,  the Glock is much faster, safer and less likely to have things flying off at high speed, ( captured guide rod don't you know ) than some other types, but other types are catching up, when stripping for cleaning. All that is needed to strip a Glock down to it's components is a 1/8" punch. All that's needed for cleaning is your fingers.The finish ( Tenifer ) is the toughest on earth. Utterly reliable, Like revolvers. As I've learned the art of the Glock, it could be made better, at my first Glock match I told Chris Edwards, that they should incorperate different grip inserts for the backstrap for different hand sizes and shooters preferences, a year later he told me " Herr Glock disagrees", nuff said, but Walther picked up on it right quick with the P99 and now S&W and Ruger. The Glock grip has to be learned, if you've become accustomed to other pistols, it will feel odd. The natural grip angle is a very high front sight picture, This is actually a good thing as most shooters tend to flinch downward, if they have a flinch. So if your natural point of aim with a Glock is high in the chest and you jerk, your jerk will probably be middle chest or abdomen, not below the pelvis. Now that I've had so much experience with the large frame pistol with a grip reduction, the small frame pistols seem to point much better than I remember. The other comment about the Glock safety record is also troubling, I've heard nothing about this at all, the only thing I've heard has been pilot error.  As for biting the web of the hand, you must have a mighty big meathook for the Glock slide to grab you. Can it be improved, Hell yeah, is it usable as it comes, Hell yeah.

My friends and I, have had the same question as many of you, if I could only own 1 pistol? What would it be, for me it would be a model 20 10mm. But if I could own 2 handguns, neither would be a Glock, If I could own 3, 2 would probably be Glocks. Just food for thought.

As you can tell I hate 1911's.


And cz's


And revolvers


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