Author Topic: Let's discuss the FNAR (Read 9176 times)

Overload · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2009, 03:06:27 PM »

A few people have brought up a good question, although they haven't made the final leap of logic: What advantages does this have over a M1A? I'm using the FNAR Standard 308 and SA Loaded model, as they seemed the closest to me.
FNAR M1A
Barrel 20" 22"
Weight 9lbs 9.8lbs
Shots 20 20
Price $1821 $1608

(If we go with the Heavy FNAR, weight goes up to 10lbs.)
Features (differences)
FNAR features: pistol grip, scope rail, forward tri-rail. high comb stock (for scope)
M1A features: front and rear sights, Garand style safety, parts & accessory availability, system experience

Now, what I can't see here is if there's an accuracy difference, a reliability difference, service life difference, ergonomics difference. Setting up either for long range use is going to require extras, the FNAR should require less.

I'm in the market for such a weapon, and I'm leaning twards the m1a in one of 3 configurations: either the Springfield Loaded or SOCOM with the Extended Cluster Rail, or by going whole hog and building up a LRB M25 receiver. I'm also looking at the Keltec RFB or some kind of a AR10.

PegLeg45 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 10, 2009, 04:10:35 PM »

You boys get ready to shed a tear....this pot is mine.

seeker_two · « **Reply #22 on:** October 11, 2009, 07:06:08 AM »

Quote from: 2HOW on October 10, 2009, 02:03:44 PM

This is a long range rifle, 300 and out. Why do you think it needs hi-cap mags or more than two standard. This is not a supression arm, this is a rifle you need to reach out. The AK and such are what you need for 200 in close. You cant have it all Baby.

Sometimes, the rifle you have is all that you have for the job....it would be nice to have the capability for supression fire for your FNAR (i.e. lots of hi-cap mags) just in case that target you think is at long range ends up being closer than you thought....

Jungle Warrior · « **Reply #23 on:** October 19, 2009, 11:37:18 PM »

Okay Guys & Gals: As a '69 RVN Vet - 75th & Americal, Ft Benning Cert Sniper, one really doesn't want to be sending "Down-Range" a lot of FMJ from either the FNAR or the M-14E2. These weapons are for spot hunting your foe from a distance with accuracy that is called for in the configuration of 7.62 Nato -- you don't need more than 7 magazines of 20 rounds on any given mission. If the shit hits the fan, you want your M-16, M-4, AK-47 or another shadow toy to spue out the lead into the advancing force's faces -- 7 bandeliers with 7 mags in each should do it.

The capable range of either of these two civilian semi-auto weapons in 7.62 Nato is sufficient to impress the best, but not for the purpose of "fire for effect".

Within one's reach if you happen to have a bunker, you need a variety of toys but at least three weapons: hi-capacity 9mm handgun, 7 round shotgun, and a semi (or full auto) rifle calibre that will fit all the environmental needs of your locus -- right Mike?

Most of us, just need a high quality bolt action rifle to really enjoy sending money thru a tube. With the quality of today's rifles, you would be suprised at the accuracy you can acquire from an "over the counter". Remington 700 BDL in .270 out of the box -- 1/3 inch groups at 100 yds from bags with factory fodder consitantly, and that was before I did my lap rounds. Now, wow -- Lt Pride would be Proud.

Even at my age, supposidely being wiser (guess that's attributed to the starring at the ceiling at night, walking the perimeter, the night sweats, the dreams), I am still able to put 10 rounds under a fist at 500 yards, with my Army Hospital cane at my side.

Bottom line: If you want blanket fire power, get a hi-capacity mag with a 5.56 semi or an AK to plug it into. If you want accuracy with impressive results out to "965+ meters" with "devestating effects and minimum splatter", get a 7.62 Nato with a match barrel from a quality manufacture, bolt or the new semi's.

Me, hell I am just as desirous of toys as the next. I've entered my name and already have a place reserved in my locker. Trijicon, Bender scope or Zeiss?

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billt · « **Reply #24 on:** October 20, 2009, 10:08:01 AM »

Quote from: Overload on October 08, 2009, 08:59:32 PM

If I understand the genesis of this gun, they took a Browning BAR and 'militarized' it.

Exactly. In doing so they added a box magazine to the Aluminum receiver, installed a plastic pistol grip stock, and ran the whole thing through a sandblaster, then jacked up the price. That is my argument against this rifle. You can go out and by a Browning Safari BAR with a blued STEEL receiver, beautiful Walnut stock, and in Magnum chamberings with the B.O.S.S. System no less, for almost one third less! All you are getting in the FNAR is bigger ammo capacity. That's it. When is the last time you needed more than 4 rounds of .300 Win. Mag. to stop anything? I'm not knocking the gun. I too almost bought it, until I examined a BAR Safari B.O.S.S. in .300 Win. Mag. sitting right next to it for $400.00 less. From a value standpoint it just didn't make financial sense. The FNAR should cost less, not more. Bill T.

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1911 Junkie · « **Reply #25 on:** October 20, 2009, 10:49:47 AM »

Quote from: billt on October 20, 2009, 10:08:01 AM

Exactly. In doing so they added a box magazine to the Aluminum receiver, installed a plastic pistol grip stock, and ran the whole thing through a sandblaster, then jacked up the price. That is my argument against this rifle. You can go out and by a Browning Safari BAR with a blued STEEL receiver, beautiful Walnut stock, and in Magnum chamberings with the B.O.S.S. System no less, for almost one third less! All you are getting in the FNAR is bigger ammo capacity. That's it. When is the last time you needed more than 4 rounds of .300 Win. Mag. to stop anything? I'm not knocking the gun. I too almost bought it, until I examined a BAR Safari B.O.S.S. in .300 Win. Mag. sitting right next to it for $400.00 less. From a value standpoint it just didn't make financial sense. The FNAR should cost less, not more. Bill T.

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