Police Officers Paying for their WORK GUNS.

[TexGun]

TexGun,

I was not down playing the LEOs needs.  I honestly think a 30/30 is a better choice (even a .44 mag lever would be IMHO).  Better man stopper.  Accurate at 100 yards ( and more).  Also easy to use, easier top off capability and familiar to many.

No offense taken Haz, you actually offered advice/alternative instead of criticism.  My gripe has always been with those who are quick to point out what others "need" or "don't need".  

[Timothy]

A bit off topic but worth mentioning.

My rifle/pistol range has a policy of FREE membership to our town PD and a few neighboring towns as part of their charter.  The PD are allowed to schedule training there as well with enough notice!

It's a small town, granted but it's proximity to several rather nasty urban areas like Boston, Worcester and Lowell, one never knows when training is the difference between life and the alternative.

[TAB]

No offense taken Haz, you actually offered advice/alternative instead of criticism.  My gripe has always been with those who are quick to point out what others "need" or "don't need".  

as a tax payer, I sign thier checks, I do get to say what they need and don't need.  Most gov employees forget that.   

[jaybet]

At my Sportsman's CluB (we put a fishing rod on our car now and then) we close our range twice a month so that our county SWAT team can have it to train. I forgot once, showed up, but was glad to have to leave...they need all the training they can get.

[tombogan03884]

 The West Hollywood, and Miami shoot outs show that Police and FBI agents need training in dealing with armored BG's.
This stuff about Cops needing weapons that will penetrate a vest is crap because the BG's will just upgrade their armor. There are vests available that will STOP a .308. What is needed is training on the Vulnerabilities of body armor. No matter the "level" or brand, there are places on all vests that can be penetrated by a .22 short, There are important body parts NOT covered.
As for High velocity rounds like the 5.7 ask yourself this,
I have an armored shooter, do I want to spend time and ammo poking holes through him till he bleeds out, or do I want to knock the everliving crap out of him with something that will dump a bunch of energy without penetrating, like a 454 or 12 Ga. slug.
Ask yourself THIS question, You're the BG, , how many times would you want to be hit with slow non penetrating thumpers  ?

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[tombogan03884]

as a tax payer, I sign thier checks, I do get to say what they need and don't need.  Most gov employees forget that.  

Not if they are paying for their own gear. Then it's none of your business.

[PegLeg45]

Opponents of the new policy note safety concerns. The rifles would be considered the personal property of the officers, which could be potentially stolen or used if left in plain sight while off-duty.

"If you take it home at night, do you throw it in the back of the car? You throw it in the trunk? What if it gets stolen and somebody uses it? There are a whole number of problems that could happen," said Paul Skidmore, a member of the Public Safety Review Committee.

Cops buying their own duty weapons is not new....it's sad that they have to do it, but at least it should be an option if the department can't/won't.

It's the above ignorant-assed quote from some left-tard that keeps our LEOs up against the long odds. What do they think cops do with their weapons at home, use 'em for doorstops?

This is the same type of bureaucrat that also cuts funding for LEO training because "they don't need to shoot that much ammo just to practice, do they?"

Bastards.

       

[TAB]

Cops buying their own duty weapons is not new....it's sad that they have to do it, but at least it should be an option if the department can't/won't.

It's the above ignorant-assed quote from some left-tard that keeps our LEOs up against the long odds. What do they think cops do with their weapons at home, use 'em for doorstops?

This is the same type of bureaucrat that also cuts funding for LEO training because "they don't need to shoot that much ammo just to practice, do they?"

Bastards.

       

lots of them do, one of the guys I shoot trap with is the training officer for a local LEA, most officer only fire what they need to qualify with.  I know other officers that shoot 2 mags worth before every shift. 

 just like the miltary, you have to break every thing down so the dumbest can understand it.

[twyacht]

The pretty recent post of a celebrity (can;t remember his name off hand) buying AR's for the Phoenix PD, was one way.

Other PD's utilize seized property sold at auction, cash used in drug arrests, etc,.. for additional funds. FOP, PBA, etc,..

FWIW, Massad Ayoob wrote an analysis of the N. Hollywood shooting, and summed it up with training. One decent shooting officer, with a 30-30, could have ended the situation, in 42 minutes less than the whole event took place (44 min.)

[Timothy]

TW, it was David Spade from SNL...