10 MM

[texcaliber]

good point think we should agree to agree then.

When every else fails default to Tex Cobb from "Uncommon Valor":

"Pull the PIN and see what happens next!"

[GUNS-R-US]

I like the 10mm. I do want one for hunting deer and other similar sized game. I'm not sure if I would try elk or bear though, at least not as a primary weapon system. Though I would welcome it as a backup for just about any hunt. Of course for those who carry it for the 2 legged verity of varmint out there be sure your aware of the Harold Fish shooting! He got screwed by the system for using a 10mm for SD! I think I'm leaning towards a G20. I would must rather have 15rds of 10mm than 6rds  of .44 or .357 mag if something dangerous is charging at me while I out hunting. I used to carry a .44 mag but it was to heavy so I switched to .357 mag now I'm thinking it's to heavy. So I'm thinking the Glock would be a good next step. But like I said at the beginning of this I would like to try hunting deer with it as the primary.

[TAB]

I think tex, we're on different roads going to the same destination.

Results at Ft. Hood had an LEO that was shot but not incapacitated return fire and incapacitate the shooter. Hasan survived, but was not able to continue shooting. Thankfully.

I bet my life on top-shelf ammo, based on documented shootings,and ballistic research and data, but the ammo won't matter without training, shot placement, and a thousand other variables.

My CCW instructor in NC, was/is retired NYC Police, he mentioned a BG shot point blank in the center chest with a .357 Magnum JHP's, get up, charge again, and wrestle with 4 officers before being handcuffed.

He died 20 minutes later. But when he got back up and charged again, he was not incapacitated. .357 has a 96% one shot stop probability, but like statistics, you can only read so much into them.

I saw a guy take 3 357 to the fore head and was able to sit up and talk to people.

when I say saw, it was at a distrance less then 6 feet.

[texcaliber]

Hmmmmm? 


Any pics?

[TAB]

no, but it turned me off mass transit.

[Sponsor]

[texcaliber]

I had to ask man.

[tfr270]

10mm is an interesting round for sure.

Speaking of Uncle Ted and his 10mm...the one I saw him shooting on the tv last night was a Springfield Armory 1911 with what looked like a 6 inch barrel and adjustable rear sights. He shot an axis deer at about 90 yards and hit it a bit far back. Tracked it down and hit two more times out of about 5 or 6 shots fired...don't know for sure but he reloaded...from those two hits it was a heart shot and a shoulder shot. Dead deer. Personally I think his first shot was too far but that's just my opinion.
Don't know that I'd use iit for bear unless it was all I had as a sidearm and I didn't have my rifle...
BTW...mature bull elk are way over 290lbs....cow elk are around 3-500 lbs...Bulls run 700-1000 lbs. Yearling bulls may be around 300 lbs or so. Elk are very muscular, dense animals with a heavy bone structure. If you hit the V perfect you are OK. HIt the leg bone or that shoulder blade and not so much....I'm still talking handguns and bows here; heavy rifle calibers will break down a bull with that shoulder shot.
And, with Ted's class III, he had a MP5 in 10mm that rocks.

[TAB]

5 or 6 shots and he only had 3 hits?  sounds like he should not have taken the shots.   

[GUNS-R-US]

5 or 6 shots and he only had 3 hits?  sounds like he should not have taken the shots.   

I think I've seen that video, he had been stalking the deer and took the shots standing at a good distance from the deer. For an Iron sight gun it was decent shooting.

[DustinL]

Hey guys I am new to the 10mm and am thinking of getting the S&W 610 6.5"which shoots the 10 and the 40. What are your thoughts?