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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2007, 02:43:04 PM »
I've been reloading since 1978, started off with a rockchucker and mec shotgun loader, graduated to Dillon 550b, have 2. In my close circle of friends we have a 1050, when we want to do a bulk session, 3,000 + usually. One of my long time friends is a commercial reloader, and I usually let him load the .223, I just picked up his version of the MK77 and am going to try it in my new, 1/6.5" twist space gun, if it works out, I'll pick up 500 more. It shoots the 80grn Bergers fantastic, but if you load the OAL, to fit in the magazine, the case mouth is past the ogive.

My habit has been to watch for deals on components, and when it comes up, stock up. It really does not matter, .22lr, primers, powder, brass, or bullets.  2 years ago, Graf and sons had decommissioned lake city match brass, brand new with bullets and primers removed. I bought 2k of 1966, for 120 bucks. Every time I buy from Midway, cabelas, bass pro etc..., regardless of what your ordering, throw in some bullets or brass. If you belong to a Gun club, try to get together a group buy, of components or ammo. I belonged to a High Power rifle club in 1990, and we did a group buy, on czech 147gr 7.62 mil surp ammo. I bought 5k at 9 cents a round. At a gun show, a fella had 173grn, 1966 lake city match for sale, he had 6 boxes of 20 on the table for 6 bucks a box, I asked him if he had any more, and he said how much do you want? I said how much you got? turned out 2400 rounds in boxes. Made the deal for 3.90 a box. I surely wish now I had not shot so much of it. I saw it last weekend going for 21 bucks a box.

I was high profile at my local club for a long time, and several times older shooters, 70 year young fellas, were giving up the shooting game, and sold me their components and equipment, some had me donate their goods to young shooters to get them started. ( shooters are really a good lot to hang with ).

I bought out some oldtimers who had casting stuff, I now have 2 good pots, lots of lead, ingot molds, and some really good bullet molds for .45, 9mm, .30 carbine, .38, .44, two sizers and lots of cast bullets that have not been sized, including something I always wanted to try, .44 180 grn full wadcutters, I really want to try that in .44 special.

I even picked up an old pacific bullet swager press, only 1 mold, 185 grn .45 swc, it was meant for soft lead wire, but I've taken .44 180swc cast lead and pumped it through the press, takes a little pressure but out comes a .45.

We can hope ammo is coming back at lower prices, but reloading is the way to go.

comparison, 168grn .308 gold match 20.00 a box of 20 or higher.  100 - 168grn sierra match kings go for about 20 bucks, 100 primers 3.00,  5000 grns of powder, 15.00 depending on what powder you chose, but that should be on the highend. So thats 38.00 bucks a 100 with your brass. Use bulk 147grn ball and bring that down a good 5 bucks.

Lead pistol ammo should still be able to be made for 10 cents a round with your old brass.

When your at the range, ask your fellow shooters if you can have their brass. Take brass you don't load and trade it for brass you do need.

Not even touching on the subject that reloading should be more accurate as it is tailored for your specific firearm.

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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2007, 09:12:15 AM »
Me too.  I have been reloading for 20 years, and casting for 15.  I bought a lead pot used and molds on ebay.  By casting my own and reloading, the only cost is the powder and primer.  That comes out awfully cheap.  You almost can't afford not too.  Ha ha.  I have gotten some of the other guys I work with into reloading and even casting their own.  They love it and can shoot a lot more because of it.  I check the local tire shops for scrap wheel weights.  They are usually more than happy to get riid of them.  I melt them into ingots so they are ready to go right into my pot.  A couple hours in the garage casting, and I have a good number of bullets.  All for free.

Get someone interested in shooting.  then get them started reloading , and even casting their own.  They will thank you for it

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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2008, 07:15:59 PM »
I need advice on what reloader to buy.  From what I can see, Lee seems like a good brand.  I want to reload 38, 44 special, 44 mag, and 308.  Any opinions out there?
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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2008, 08:01:07 PM »
I started about a year ago reloading 45 acp and 44 mag on a Lee Classic Turret on my workbench in the basement.  Recently remodeled my sons new bedroom and the wife gave his old one.  I built a bench up there in the heat and AC.  Just getting it set up.  I am now starting to acquire dies for my rifles! 




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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2008, 08:36:45 PM »
saltydogbk you really can't go wrong with any of the major single stage press brands. Midway USA has a useful section on each product they sell.Where you can write your opinion on that product. It sure helps to find out ahead of time that something is a piece of crap before you buy it. One thing I had to learn the hard way was to get reloading dies that are easy to take apart and clean without having to take them off your press if something happens during your relaoding session. I'm using Dillion Dies and I reload alot of lead so many times I have to clean them without removing the whole die.Remove the top clip and the guts drop out, clean ,slip it back in, re-clip it and your good to go without having to re-adjust your dies. As far as the bullets, brass etc. Buy as much as you can afford then buy more. As soon as you hang the phone up the price will have gone up sad to say. Good Luck and Enjoy
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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2008, 08:52:46 PM »
I used to watch my dad reload on his RCBS when i was 8 years old he always kept his equipment where ever we moved and I inherited all of it when he passed away I was 17 and sill at 52 I reload but on a Dillon 550B in .38/357  .44 .45 .223 and .308. I have got my granddaughters in in and when he's old enough I will teach my great grandson how to do it properly and safely. As far as cost go check out Missouri bullet Co. they are good bullets and still reasonable.
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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2008, 09:07:00 PM »
i'm going to start reloading in april what do I need besides a press,dies and conponents? to reload 7mm rem mag,30-30,25-06,.357 ???
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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2008, 10:18:59 PM »
New to the forum..howdy from south carolina..
My how times have changed..started reloading in 1975 in las vegas....
I know this is retro and depressing...        10 years ago----------
win primers at gun show  60.@ sleeve no tax
vita powder        17. a pound(was expensive even then)
once fired 9mm      10. @thousand
jacketed bullets  3.5 to 4 cents ea....(i remember buying a case(3660) of win 115 jhp from midway for 125.)

the GOOD ole days were just a few years ago........................I guess we will all have to buy lower capacity pistols and aim better...

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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2008, 10:35:31 PM »
Amen brother
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Re: Ammo costs are up...confirmed by Michael--how many are reloading?
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2008, 10:01:05 AM »
I did a LOT of reloading in the '80s but packed my stuff away when I moved into my current house in '93 and only dug it out last fall. I plan to be doing some reloading in the next year.

What's even better/cheaper, I've found, is shooting .22. I try to have a .22 conversion or matching gun for all of my centerfires that I can. You can still buy .22LR bulk ammo at Walmart for cheaper than centerfire primers ALONE. I shot over 26,000 rounds of .22 last year and hope to do it again this year.

Here's a pic of some of my favorite .22 "training" pistols.

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