Author Topic: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK  (Read 22292 times)

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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2009, 11:00:46 AM »
This past year saw Glock in the hundred thousand+ range for back orders.  Good business sense keeps the business stable in addressing the demand for products.  That is, sell what you can actually make and service.  With an incredible banner year for sales under their belt, the claim that market pressure for features such as changeable grip arches rings a bit hollow.

I was in the right place at the right time, and know the right people.

I call BS on the back orders..... I have never ever walked into a gun shop and was not able to find brand new Glocks in any and every caliber available for sale..... They are everywhere (you know, aside from Wal-Mart). Very easy to find and very easy to buy. Not too many waiting lists out there.

Additionally, If they are not introducing interchangeable back straps to meet a consumer demand then why do it? What you are saying makes no sense..... A proper business model alone will do nothing to keep the business afloat if they are not continually filling the consumers needs/wants. It doesnt matter if they are selling what they can "make and service" if there is little or no demand for the product. I am sorry, but your business 101 is a little flawed.

Once again.... Where? I am not calling you a liar, but I would like to see some tangible evidence of what you are claiming.... Yes, Glock is starting to tease about a reveal at SHOT, but there were internet rumors about back straps and ambidextrous controls back when the RTF came out.
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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2009, 01:33:47 PM »
Eric, I was in a gun shop last spring while the clerk, (a gun guy) was trying to place orders, while I was there he contacted 5 distributors, only one actually had any Glocks, I forget what models and calibers but they were oddballs, no 9MM, no .45 acp, nothing that the guy had orders for.
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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2009, 07:11:49 PM »
However, with the significant gains Smith & Wesson has made into the police market with the M&P pistols, Glock is likely feeling the pressure to add interchangeable backstraps to better appeal to the law enforcement market.  Many agencies switching to the M&P have stated that the ability to match the gun to the officer’s hand size was a major factor in choosing Smith & Wesson over Glock.

Glock is playing catch up as M+P has more LEO contracts with its flexible grips and ambi ease.

I own both, and the M+P is worth Glock revisiting what it at first resisted. It's called sales...

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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2009, 09:18:13 PM »
I call BS on the back orders.....

I think I have access to a bit more information then you.  Glock has shared there back order situation with a few folks outside the industry.  As to the new gun...I've held it and changed the grips on it.  It has been undergoing some range testing at a major metro agency.

At this time, the current Advantage Arms kits will not work with the new gun.  This due to changes in spring rates.
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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2009, 10:18:47 PM »
It's Glocktoberfest at Turners...... over 250 Glocks in stock!

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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2009, 12:36:08 AM »
I love the grip on my M&P's, but I also love the trigger on the Glock. I used to own a model 23 Gen 1. I considered it to be my first REAL handgun. But I sold it in favor of a Sig229 cause I never really liked the grip that well, and compared to the Sig it just didn't shoot it as good. When I was looking at the M&P's and that grip is the only thing that kept me from going back to Glock. If they fix it with the Gen 4 I will go back to them! And for FQ13 and the others that say if it aint broke don't fix it. This is America where we all still (at least for now) have choices and if you don't like to new change their will still be thousands of G1-G3 Glocks on the market for you to choose from! And though I haven't seen or handled one I'll guess one of the new grip sizes will probably match the old Glocks. There isn't much to break on an M&P grip so I'll doubt the new Glock will be much different. After all they build a very durable product to start with. My local store usually has plenty of glocks (15 or more in the case) but not always do they have all of the models in stock. Last winter my buddy was looking all over for model 19 and not one of the 8 stores in my area had one. I think I would love to have a Model 20 Gen 4! I really want to try a 10MM.  ;D   And don't forget that Glock offers special LEO and Military pricing! ;D ;D I think Paramedics and Fireman qualify too!
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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2009, 09:51:00 AM »
I love the grip on my M&P's, but I also love the trigger on the Glock.

Don't think I ever heard that one before.  ;D
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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2009, 10:21:24 AM »
It's true. Out of the box Glock has one of the best DA triggers on the market!
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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2009, 03:30:41 PM »
I agree. The breakpoint is what makes it for me. I don't like a long and steady pull. I like something that lets me take up the slack. When it tightens, then it will go bang. For me, this helps with accuracy. Your mileage may vary.
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Re: Hands on with Gen 4 GLOCK
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2009, 04:34:33 PM »
Not to get in a pissing contest or anything, but out of box glock triggers suck. Even glock fanboys admit this. Lets just say it isn't exactly what they are known for (for the good anyway).

I'm not bashing glocks, just keeping it real.  ;)

I much prefer the trigger on the M&P, thats why I bought one, or else I would have a glock. Personal preference, though.
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