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Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« on: October 21, 2009, 07:45:53 AM »
I wouldn't want to get into an argument with Christopher Hitchens about anything - with me taking the position that the sky is blue or the sun comes up in the East, or that my pseudonym is Clark Kent.  Chances are better than even that he would win.

Yet, with all his sophistry, I cannot imagine a plausible counter-argument to the one he's posited in Slate Magazine this week: Why Wait To Disarm Iran? There's no possible advantage in waiting until Tehran has nukes.

I realize this is preaching to the choir, but it's good to have fact-based opinion marshaled so irrefutably that if some left-wing ninny were to tiptoe over here to find something at which to snicker, he/she could only slink away with wet panties after reading Hitchens's column, shaking his/her head in abject confusion.  
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 08:47:01 AM »
Glad to see there's another Hitchen's fan here. I like the fact that he's hard to pigeon hole ideologically. That is the first sign of being someone worth listening to. While many people have quite justly called him annoying, I doubt that anyone has ever called him stupid.
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 09:05:48 AM »
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If the U.S. had ANY kind of REAL leadership, bombing Iran would be a mute point by now. Had the U.S. simply backed the protestors earlier this year. Even going so far as to let the CIA get involved and do the kinds of things that they do best, the Mullahs would probably be in exile and Akmadinijad would be swinging from the gallows right next to Saddam.

It is sad to say, but liberals in THIS country are directly responsible for the situation in Iran. Carter showed weakness in his response to the hostage crisis in Tehran, and now 30 years later, BHO won't even give acknowledgment to the student protesters that America (Land of liberty remember) believes in what they are standing for. Instead he gives his praise to the regime for their brutal tactics, and says that it is none of our business. Besides he's too busy trying to get another dictator back into power in S. America.

Personally I am for carpet bombing the entire region. Clear the area and start over. The United States lost it's credibility after Viet Nam. Not because we lost, but because we quit. I have said this before, the United States can accomplish ANY objective IF we are allowed to. But because of the liberal infestation into our culture. We are not allowed to make the hard choices. We are not allowed to do what needs to be done. And that is why we are fighting a war on terror that should have been over 4 years ago.
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 12:48:57 PM »
Glad to see there's another Hitchen's fan here. I like the fact that he's hard to pigeon hole ideologically. That is the first sign of being someone worth listening to. While many people have quite justly called him annoying, I doubt that anyone has ever called him stupid.
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You mean like communist and anti-Christian? Yeah, real tough job pigeonholing him.

Of course you like him, FQ, like you he is a massive bipolar, being a Trotskyite and an admirer of the noted anti-Trotskys (and anti-socialist) George Orwell. Or being a US citizen - while retaining his British citizenship.

FQ, here's a clue - the world is full of over-educated assholes like Hitchens.

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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 01:31:07 PM »
You mean like communist and anti-Christian? Yeah, real tough job pigeonholing him.

Of course you like him, FQ, like you he is a massive bipolar, being a Trotskyite and an admirer of the noted anti-Trotskys (and anti-socialist) George Orwell. Or being a US citizen - while retaining his British citizenship.

FQ, here's a clue - the world is full of over-educated assholes like Hitchens.



So, Pathfinder, does this mean Hitchens is wrong about everything?  Even about Iran?   
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 01:35:44 PM »
So, Pathfinder, does this mean Hitchens is wrong about everything?  Even about Iran?   

No, he is saying that Quaker is wrong about everything.
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 06:04:05 PM »
No, he is saying that Quaker is wrong about everything.
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 06:17:27 PM »
You mean like communist and anti-Christian? Yeah, real tough job pigeonholing him.

Of course you like him, FQ, like you he is a massive bipolar, being a Trotskyite and an admirer of the noted anti-Trotskys (and anti-socialist) George Orwell. Or being a US citizen - while retaining his British citizenship.

FQ, here's a clue - the world is full of over-educated assholes like Hitchens.


Actually Orwell was a socialist, just anti-communist because he wanted democratic socialism, no "vanguard of the proletariat" crap. Try reading his "Road to Wiggan Pier" (probably sic), or his earlier work opposing colonialism, as he became thoroughly dissillusioned after serving in Burma. His "Killing an Elephant" is a classic. He didn't like the Sovs, but was about two steps to the left of what you see in Sweden. As for Hitchens, he is an atheist (a respectable position that I disagree with), and  a hawk on defence, unafraid to condemn Islamic extremists (and just plain Islam as he uderstands that there are few moderates. There aren't a lot of the Muslim equivelent of Methodists out there.) I do think he can be a PITA from time to time, but so can you, and I still read your stuff. ;D
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 06:40:23 PM »
Even Glocks?
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Even you pointed out that I had to talk you into the 26..... as of yesterday, you are looking to sell it.
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Re: Damned good argument for bombing Iran
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 07:23:53 PM »
Even you pointed out that I had to talk you into the 26..... as of yesterday, you are looking to sell it.
Only to trade up to the 30. Even then, it will take a lot of research before I do. I love that 26, and never really paid that much attention to the 9mm vs .45 debate, figuring that lots of folks who deal with this stuff for a living have chosen both. My question is whether at bad breath distance, I'll get that much more bang for the buck to trade mine in (along with my 19 for a full sized .45 as I want both in the same caliber with interchangeable mags) and pay the extra dollrs in moving from used to new. Frankly, I doubt it, but I will be researching the issue. However, 9mm or .45, it will be a Glock subcompact on my belt and a full sized Gock on the night stand.
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