After m58's post i went back for a review and sorry about overlooking this earlier:
You are upset by this whole mess
now to correct you, I absolutely am not upset with you, some of you retorts yes, along with the treatment of members of this forum, you-betcha, but you in general, negative. You are far from "holier than thou", even though your posts are snide at times. It is the lack of safety standards. Period.
To reflect on the subject of topic, if you in
noway have a say in production safety, then why O why did you get involved in the first place?
In doing so you automatically make it "guilt by association" and take responsibility. Agree or disagree it is fact. I will listen to your disputes, then disregard it as usual.
joking joking