Suggestions for a truck gun?

[tt11758]

BM,

He wants to hit things smaller than a house at "at least 200 yards".

Corrected for accuracy.

[pioneer]

I'm going to side with the Haz on this one.  For 200 yard reach, the 30-30 sheds too much energy to be very effective and 8-12" drop at 200 yards is tough to judge with irons.  I hunted with nothing but 30-30 over the years.  Quite cabable to 100-150 yards.  Further than that is .30-06 or .308 for me.

Hornaday's new LeveRevolution .30-30 ammo will do the trick out to 300 yds. for a lever gun. 

I think the Mosin–Nagant suggestion is a good one.  I have an M-44 that I am considering as a trunk gun as soon as I can figure a way to make it secure.     

[Timothy]

Hornaday's new LeveRevolution .30-30 ammo will do the trick out to 300 yds. for a lever gun. 

I stand corrected however, I don't think I'd load that pointy bullet in a tube fed magazine.  Fine for everything else but I'd avoid that cartridge in a lever action tube fed gun.

Thoughts?

[Big Frank]

I stand corrected however, I don't think I'd load that pointy bullet in a tube fed magazine.  Fine for everything else but I'd avoid that cartridge in a lever action tube fed gun.

Thoughts?

That's exactly what it was made for. The rubber tip won't set off another round in the magazine.

[Timothy]

That's exactly what it was made for. The rubber tip won't set off another round in the magazine.

So I've read, that doesn't give me a warm, fuzzy though Frank...still bothersome too me!

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[Hazcat]

Tim,

Look at it this way.  We all complain about 'lawyer triggers', think about what the lawyers had to say about this ammo.

I trust it is as safe as any other loaded gun.

[fightingquaker13]

So I've read, that doesn't give me a warm, fuzzy though Frank...still bothersome too me!

I agree, particularly for a truck gun, where it is by definition going to get jostled and knocked around. I'll stick with soft points. In a magazine fed model, no problem. Still for 200 yards plus, I'd choose a different round. Still, the question is, how many of us would feel comfortable taking a 200 yard plus shot on game with irons? I don't know about ya'll,but my eyes are not what they used to be. Maybe with a rear peep and a fiberoptic front sight, but at dawn and dusk (when most shots on deer occur), I'll just move closer or wait for the next one.
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[MikeBjerum]

Tim,

Look at it this way.  We all complain about 'lawyer triggers', think about what the lawyers had to say about this ammo.

I trust it is as safe as any other loaded gun.

I double checked my memory, and this ammo was specifically designed for tube magazines. It is their answer to the aerodynamic issues of round nose in long range shots.  Hornady wouldn't have released it without a lot of research and testing, and for as much as is out there we would have heard long ago if there was an issue.

[Timothy]

I double checked my memory, and this ammo was specifically designed for tube magazines. It is their answer to the aerodynamic issues of round nose in long range shots.  Hornady wouldn't have released it without a lot of research and testing, and for as much as is out there we would have heard long ago if there was an issue.

That I can wrap my brain around but, at what pressures are they pushing this case in order to get the extra reach and energy?  Is it truly a .30 cal with 30 gr of powder now?  Can it be loaded in older guns for which this round was originaly chambered?  What is the old and new SAAMI pressures for the cartridge?

I've only now become aware of this cartridge so these are the questions the come to mind immediately.  You guys and gals have far more experience in these things than I do, do any of these questions sound rediculous or am I being overly conservative?

Hornady Disclaimer

In the past, lever guns were engineered to function ammunition loaded with blunt profile bullets. LEVERevolution's revolutionary new bullet design may require a newer magazine follower to provide best possible functioning of the last round out of the magazine. These magazine followers may be purchased from the manufacturer of your firearm. For optimum performance we do not recommend storing LEVERevoultion ammunition in tubular magazines for extended periods, as this can result in tip deformation.

[tombogan03884]

FQ, the next time there is an Appleseed event in your area, GO. The basic premise of the Project is that if you can not make consistent hits with a rack grade rifle at 500 yards, with iron sights you are NOT a Rifleman .