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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 05:26:27 PM »
name sound familiar?  makes you say Hmmmm..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154979,00.html

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FORT BRAGG, N.C. —  A military jury sentenced a soldier to death Thursday for a grenade and rifle attack on his own comrades during the opening days of the Iraq invasion, a barrage that killed two officers and that prosecutors said was driven by religious extremism.

Sgt. Hasan Akbar (search), who gave a brief, barely audible apology hours earlier, stood at attention between his lawyers as the verdict was delivered. He showed no emotion.


He could have been sentenced to life in prison with or without parole for the early morning March 2003 attack, which also wounded 14 fellow members of the Army's 101st Airborne Division (search) at Camp Pennsylvania in Kuwait.

The 15-person military jury, which last week took just two and a half hours to convict Akbar of premeditated murder and attempted premeditated murder, deliberated for about seven hours in the sentencing phase. After jurors reached a verdict, they voted on whether to reconsider the decision after one juror asked that they do so.

The sentence will be reviewed by a commanding officer and automatically appealed. If Akbar is executed, it would be by lethal injection.
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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 05:29:58 PM »
Just one guy with a hand gun? I doubt it. The first reports said three, but its all nonsense until the dust clears and the facts come to light. However, inflicting thirty on casulties with a pistol is beyond an extraordinary amount of skill.I do not doubt the guy has accomplices and this was more than "road rage" on the part of a disgruntled guy going postal. Particularly a major. That's the promotion that determines if the army wants to keep you or say so long. They don't give oak leaves out at the door.
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Wrong as usual!

He had two hand guns.  In a crowded room it ain't hard to inflict that kind of damage.  One round is gonna hit more than one person.  Hell give me two Glocks with 17 rounds or so each and it wouldn't be hard at all.

There are two other suspects in custody but rumor is they were not shooters.
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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 05:35:37 PM »
Wrong as usual!

He had two hand guns.  In a crowded room it ain't hard to inflict that kind of damage.  One round is gonna hit more than one person.  Hell give me two Glocks with 17 rounds or so each and it wouldn't be hard at all.

There are two other suspects in custody but rumor is they were not shooters.
If thats the final verdict, then that is what it is. The reports I read did not specify the location or circumstances. Just that there were three shooters. Still, very good marksmanship and very strange circumstances.
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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 05:39:11 PM »
Just one guy with a hand gun? I doubt it. The first reports said three, but its all nonsense until the dust clears and the facts come to light. However, inflicting thirty on casulties with a pistol is beyond an extraordinary amount of skill.I do not doubt the guy has accomplices and this was more than "road rage" on the part of a disgruntled guy going postal. Particularly a major. That's the promotion that determines if the army wants to keep you or say so long. They don't give oak leaves out at the door.
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It all depends on the level of training, pre-planned tactics, and motivation as to how much damage can be done in a short amount of time by an aggressor.

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People have a hard time believing how disarmed soldiers are on an US military base.

I would bet the farm there are more armed people walking the streets of my town than on most bases.

Just because they are military doesn't mean they didn't panic.


As you said, FQ, we will have to wait for all the details.....




If we ever get all the details.



If thats the final verdict, then that is what it is. The reports I read did not specify the location or circumstances. Just that there were three shooters. Still, very good marksmanship and very strange circumstances.
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Cone said that a gunman entered a facility known as the Soldier Readiness Facility, where soldiers who are preparing to deploy go for last minute medical check ups and dental treatment. Sources told ABC News that the soldiers gathered there were getting ready to deploy to Iraq.

The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack.

"The gunman opened fire and essentially due to the quick respond of the police forces was killed," said Cone.

The shooter was killed by civilian law enforcement and one police officer died in the shootout, Cone said.

The gunman's suspected accomplices were taken into custody in an adjacent facility known as the old SportsDome Complex.
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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 05:55:39 PM »

The sentence will be reviewed by a commanding officer and automatically appealed. If Akbar is executed, it would be by lethal injection.

The POS should be beheaded or firing squad... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Shooter Identified
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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2009, 05:58:37 PM »
Back in the 90's the 82nd Airborne had an Instructor Sgt who had served in the Egyptian Army. He wound up being sentanced to prison for his continuing ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and other terror groups.
And yes, the insane thing is that US military bases are a gun control advocates wet dream. Generally speaking, the only people with arms AND live ammo are MP's and guys on guard duty.

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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2009, 06:28:20 PM »
I hope our military will "wake up" and do further testing and evaluation measures to prevent or lessen the chances of "crazies"  infiltrating and doing crap like this. And it's not just people with with foreign names, i.e. gangs and others are slowly degrading our military and using it to harm others. 

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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2009, 06:31:53 PM »

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Re: Shooter Identified
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2009, 06:48:59 PM »
"... a murderous rampage that officials believe was carried out by an Army psychiatrist." He's the one that needed a psychiatrist.   
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