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[Timothy]

Can't wait till Pincus sees this thread....

From tactical vests, Louis Vitton doggy bags to guitar case machine guns!  Now there's some defensive tactics...

 

[Jackel]

during my time in the regiment on covert gigs we had tactical vests, similar to the ones shown on the front page, but slimmer and to be worn under clothes.

the idea was to keep your 9, radio etc in that, which is like a full chest belly band, and wear a button down shirt with snaps instead of buttons so it can be accessed easily.

[fightingquaker13]

during my time in the regiment on covert gigs we had tactical vests, similar to the ones shown on the front page, but slimmer and to be worn under clothes.

the idea was to keep your 9, radio etc in that, which is like a full chest belly band, and wear a button down shirt with snaps instead of buttons so it can be accessed easily.

Now that is a great idea. God knows that back in the '80s when I was rebelling against the preppy culture in jr. high, I wore my share of snap up cowboy shirts (important safety tip: do not put one on straight out of the dryer. Those snaps get hot). . The idea of them being tactical is spot on. Run your hand down the seam and anything in a vest or belly bad is right there. Not particularly fashionable, butI'm old enough to have passed into Rockports and Dockers territory, one more indignity should not be too much.
FQ13

[twyacht]

I'll still be at sea, wearing a big hat.

Can't wait till Pincus sees this thread....

From tactical vests, Louis Vitton doggy bags to guitar case machine guns!  Now there's some defensive tactics...

 

I'm sensing another lockdown.....

[texcaliber]

Bring your sleeping bag Tim, Water is no problem and I've got floor space  Grin
Same goes for Texicaliber.

NO PROBLEM, send me the address for my GPS  in a PM and I will bring the family, beer and a small armament along with ammo and mags when it hits the fan. I will have the security covered for ya. You will be responsible for the food and water though. 

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[seeker_two]

I'll still be at sea, wearing a big hat.

I'm sensing another lockdown.....

I'm sensing a teaching opportunity for our favorite instructor......

...but I'll dread getting the tuition bill..... 

[Rob Pincus]

Can't wait till Pincus sees this thread....

You were the kind of kids that ran past the yards with dogs hoping you could get them to bark, weren't you?

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I vote low-profile.... guitar case, Louis Vitton, plain 'ol backpack...whatever.

Snap equipped shirts are great... and yes, they do make them outside of the Cowboy stores.  

I'd much rather be thought a target and prove someone wrong than expose my strengths and have them avoided or negated.

Some of you may have seen the pics from my Coast-to-Nashville Harley trip to the AK Class... I could've used any number of soft rifle cases and been legal, but the Sneaky-Bag drew 100% no attention strapped to the side of the bike.

-RJP

[Badgersmilk]

You were the kind of kids that ran past the yards with dogs hoping you could get them to bark, weren't you?

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I vote low-profile.... guitar case, Louis Vitton, plain 'ol backpack...whatever.

Snap equipped shirts are great... and yes, they do make them outside of the Cowboy stores.  

I'd much rather be thought a target and prove someone wrong than expose my strengths and have them avoided or negated.
Some of you may have seen the pics from my Coast-to-Nashville Harley trip to the AK Class... I could've used any number of soft rifle cases and been legal, but the Sneaky-Bag drew 100% no attention strapped to the side of the bike.

-RJP

That's my thinking on this as well.  The "tactical open carry vests" were intended for real soldiers who would be well out of arms reach of their enemy.  Only later did all the mall ninga's pick up on them and make them trendy (trendy doesn't = practical).  It's just being a little to nieve to think you will never need to be, or end up being in close proximity of other people.  You aren't going to be in control of your surroundings, or you wouldn't be there at all!

Better to be "The retard carrying a guitar case" around desperate people, than have them thinking "look at all the goodies he's got!  The 10 of us can take him no matter what he pulls!"  Or, "I'll just shoot him in the head from behind, then rape and pillage the body."  

Why be a target?  

Rob, What was the "Sneaky-bag"?

ANYBODY could unexpectedly be in this situation.  The entire east cost just got a good wash down from a tropical storm, out west there are earthquakes.  Even a 30 minute power outage leads to crime, burglary, and shootings (happened days ago in Brazil).

[Rob Pincus]

http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?t=57620

-RJP

[texcaliber]

These "mall-ninja"s referred to are in every case responding to the aftermath of the SHTF. As to low profile , I also recommend it. But however you have your equipment, be it covert or tactically cool, the number one thing is to have it. Same thought line as the J-frame in the pocket.

As far as a natural disaster, last winter's ice storm left this area/ without power for over a week. It was very hard to be tacti"cool" while wearing 5-6 layers of warm clothes.( by the way generators proved their weight in gold ) After the first wave of thieving and hotbulgeries hit, awareness on a 1-10 scale went to 11 , but  the only time to get heavily prepped(more than my Glock and Jframe) was at night or prier to going out to look for supplies and gas. A lot of hostel and angry unprepped people but understandably so. When out looking for supplies the Glock35 fought back to the 870Max(590now). When at house , I used a 870MAX(the only one which sight was brought on a threat), and has been replaced with a Moss590 since, and I used the thought process of fighting to my AR which was in the "SafeRoom" along with a small supply of food and water,30rd. magizines loaded to 28 usually were brought down to 26rds. for gloved reloads, and a dump pouch had more Hornady TAP00. Not one of the tactical holsters or vest were used. Also  the firearms, knifes, flashlights and light sticks were always at hand or near. Not a vest nor drop leg holster or anything cammoed was used. With exception of a single point sling on both long guns I was very lacking of tactical bliss.

The responding action to a threat should be first to move, if responsible for others move them also, then respond to the threat. Tactical bunker should be the thought process, not a one man fortress. If you are wearing all your guns and ammo, You are making it easier for them to get supplies to use against me and mine. It brings to mind the guy from "I'm Gonna Get Ya Sucker" who fell over and all of his armament started to A.D. at the same time. 

 NO offense meant toward anyone,

P.S. i was the kid running by the barking dog with a squirt gun and wasting them upon the pounce/bark then giggling to the water refill area to repeat cycle until owner chased furiously. So you got to ask yourself one question  .........are you the owner or the dog?