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Title: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: rj112275 on April 09, 2012, 12:40:07 PM
Okay, I'm bored with hunting deer with the 308.  I've already got a couple of bows. How about a large, single action revolver?  Whatcha think?  I mostly hunt tree stands in Tennessee and shots are usually under 50 yards anyway, unless I hunt the fields. I think a handgun to hunt with would be lots of fun.

I'm thinking the same for squirrels too. But a 22 handgun, not the 44 ;)
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 09, 2012, 01:05:24 PM
It's actually fairly common here in NH.
The second most common hunting handgun is the Ruger Red Hawk in .44 Mag.
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: gunman42782 on April 09, 2012, 03:34:36 PM
I think the SBH would be an excelent choice. 
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 09, 2012, 03:41:25 PM
I use a 7" Ruger Super Blackhawk with Hornady LeverEvolution (225gr FTX bullets) ammo. I feel confident out to 100yds on whitetails.
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: rj112275 on April 09, 2012, 05:31:23 PM
Yikes, 100 yards with a handgun.  That sounds like a challenge.

I only see the 225gr LeveRevolution ammo.  Looking at the trajectory charts, if it's 2.4" high at 50 yards, then it should be dead on at 100 yards. Am I looking at that right?  That's nice, if it holds it's trajectory that well.

Not a lot of folks down here hunting with 44 mags, nor pistols to boot. For deer, a lot of 7mm mags, 30-30, 30-06, etc.

Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Timothy on April 09, 2012, 05:42:18 PM
Yikes, 100 yards with a handgun.  That sounds like a challenge.

I only see the 225gr LeveRevolution ammo.  Looking at the trajectory charts, if it's 2.4" high at 50 yards, then it should be dead on at 100 yards. Am I looking at that right?  That's nice, if it holds it's trajectory that well.

Yup!
http://www.hornady.com/assets/files/sell-sheets/2009/44_Mag-357_Mag.pdf
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Timothy on April 09, 2012, 06:36:05 PM
This thread got me thinking and I looked up my hunting regs again!

It IS lawful to hunt coyote, fox, bobcat, bear, raccoon and opossum with a handgun here!  Bear is .357 magnum or larger caliber revolver.  Coyote is vague (gotta do some more homework) and coon and possum are .38 or larger pistol or revolver!

Cool!

Edit...coyote, fox and bobcat are .38 caliber or smaller!
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Ping on April 09, 2012, 07:18:32 PM
Has to be .357 magnum or above in Indiana. Can't even use 10mm.  ??? Was looking myself for a good revolver in .357 to hunt with. As for coyotes, we can use our .223 AR's, but for deer, pistol calibers or shotgun slugs/muzzleloader. Booo.  I do have a buddy that can hunt with his .458 SOCOM.
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: twyacht on April 09, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
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Now you guys got me wanting a scope for it.....Gee, thanks....

 ::)

Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Timothy on April 09, 2012, 07:41:19 PM
Has to be .357 magnum or above in Indiana. Can't even use 10mm.  ??? Was looking myself for a good revolver in .357 to hunt with. As for coyotes, we can use our .223 AR's, but for deer, pistol calibers or shotgun slugs/muzzleloader. Booo.  I do have a buddy that can hunt with his .458 SOCOM.

Colonel Wesson killed moose, brown (grizzly) bear, elk, etc with a 8-3/4" barrel S&W revolver of the same caliber in 1935.  All one shot kills BTW...
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 09, 2012, 08:46:39 PM
Has to be .357 magnum or above in Indiana. Can't even use 10mm. ??? Was looking myself for a good revolver in .357 to hunt with. As for coyotes, we can use our .223 AR's, but for deer, pistol calibers or shotgun slugs/muzzleloader. Booo.  I do have a buddy that can hunt with his .458 SOCOM.

Are you sure about that ?  10MM is .40 that's bigger than  .357 and IIRC a faster, heavier bullet, 180 gr vs 158 in the 357.


Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Timothy on April 09, 2012, 08:58:12 PM
Are you sure about that ?  10MM is .40 that's bigger than  .357 and IIRC a faster, heavier bullet, 180 gr vs 158 in the 357.

A revolver like the S&W 610 and 10mm would be a great combo for anything in North America!  Plenty of power and the accuracy of a revolver!
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 09, 2012, 09:00:36 PM
Not to mention it brings "Handgun hunting into the 20th century by allowing the use of a semi auto, after all, the designs been around for about 130 years.  ;D
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Timothy on April 09, 2012, 09:03:50 PM
I'd still never use anything but a revolver to hunt with though.  I'm afraid that an auto loader just ain't gonna keep 'em in the zone like a wheelgun, certainly not at distances outside 100 yards.
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 09, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
Yikes, 100 yards with a handgun.  That sounds like a challenge.

I only see the 225gr LeveRevolution ammo.  Looking at the trajectory charts, if it's 2.4" high at 50 yards, then it should be dead on at 100 yards. Am I looking at that right?  That's nice, if it holds it's trajectory that well.

Not a lot of folks down here hunting with 44 mags, nor pistols to boot. For deer, a lot of 7mm mags, 30-30, 30-06, etc.



I would definitely use a rest.  ;)

When I had 20-something eyes and steadier hands (and I could afford more practice ammo) I could keep all my shots in a fair group at 100 yds freehand with 200gr bullets at around 1200 fps using a Ruger SBH with a 4 5/8" barrel.

Those days are loooooong gone. Not that I don't still have the potential, I just don't shoot the big bores at those distances enough any more to reliably take game free-handed. I have padded rests mounted in the windows of my deer blind.

With the LeverEvolution and a 7 1/2" barreled SBH....from a steady rest, I can still keep 'em in the kill zone.

Most of the shots I could possibly take on game is in wooded areas where <75 yds would be the norm.
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 09, 2012, 10:23:49 PM
I'd still never use anything but a revolver to hunt with though.  I'm afraid that an auto loader just ain't gonna keep 'em in the zone like a wheelgun, certainly not at distances outside 100 yards.

Luddite.    ;D
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: alfsauve on April 10, 2012, 05:35:21 AM
This is what you need.   

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                                                                               (toe goes here ----^ )
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: twyacht on April 10, 2012, 05:04:49 PM
This is what you need.   

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                                                                               (toe goes here ----^ )

Gun BIG enough for two/three toes Kimosabe!!! ;D
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Conagher 45 on April 10, 2012, 06:03:00 PM
Are you sure about that ?  10MM is .40 that's bigger than  .357 and IIRC a faster, heavier bullet, 180 gr vs 158 in the 357.



Here in Indiana the legislators in charge of making the laws for deer hunting also have a minimum case length rule which takes 10mm out of the legal handgun rounds for deer. These morons do not look at the energy of the round or how successful it is.  :(
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 10, 2012, 06:08:23 PM
Here in Indiana the legislators in charge of making the laws for deer hunting also have a minimum case length rule which takes 10mm out of the legal handgun rounds for deer. These morons do not look at the energy of the round or how successful it is.  :(

Lawyers   ::)
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Conagher 45 on April 10, 2012, 06:23:59 PM
Lawyers   ::)

Worse .......................    Lawyers who are politicians.   >:(
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: Conagher 45 on April 10, 2012, 06:24:32 PM
That don't Hunt.
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: m25operator on April 12, 2012, 05:02:47 PM
The 44 mag is a great hunting round, i shoot a model 29 classic hunter with a 5'' barrel, 2 power scope and 300 grn hornaday xtp bullets, these bullets are highly accurate, expand very well and at 1200 fps, will completely penetrate a white tail broad side. Not a thing wrong with a Super Bee, I personally don't like the slow hammer fall, but that is a small problem.
Title: Re: 44 magnum Super Blackhawk for deer
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 13, 2012, 11:29:16 AM
The 44 mag is a great hunting round, i shoot a model 29 classic hunter with a 5'' barrel, 2 power scope and 300 grn hornaday xtp bullets, these bullets are highly accurate, expand very well and at 1200 fps, will completely penetrate a white tail broad side. Not a thing wrong with a Super Bee, I personally don't like the slow hammer fall, but that is a small problem.

A good point you mention there, M25 (I know we've discussed it before on the phone).
There is a slower hammer drop on the SBH, and it can effect accuracy if not accounted for. It is, along with what I previously posted, why I use a shooting rest when hunting.