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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: HBMan on May 01, 2009, 09:55:51 PM
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The forums here are some of the friendliest and helpful ones on the web. For the most part everyone treats other posters and new members in a respectful manner.
Now for the Rant.
How many of you have stopped participating in forums because of condescending forum elitists that
wind up running the show? You know the ones that belittle the new guys asking their questions and have no time to help out someone who actually may be quite knowledgable in another field yet is new to a forum of a newly found interest. You aren't worth their time if you ain't in their clique.
I don't need to know any names or the particular forums that this happens on but would like to know how many others have stopped using a forum or just won't even ask a question or voice an opinion because of the possible rebuke or ridicule.
I am confident that most forums have alot of people veiwing that could have some very interesting information or ideas that just don't step forward because of the elitists and snobs.
I really don't have any certain stories for examples right now but there are plenty if I thought a little.
Rant Off.
HBMan
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I understand where your coming from. I have been on more than a couple other forums that were like that.
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Luckily, most of us here are happy to be toting and talking about our weaponry, and the weapons we want to have.
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I've checked out most of the gun forums,Even got kicked off one ;D this is the only forum I post on, for guns, or politics.
People here are special. The guy that calls you an a hole on one thread will be the first to help you out with a question in another.
We all realize that we are passionate about our hobby and our beliefs, so we don't take that sort of thing to personal. ;D
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People here are special.
+1000 I'm not talking about "short bus" special either. ;D The members of this forum are, for the most part, some of the best people you will ever come across. They have been of more help than they can imagine, not only regarding questions about firearms, but also when I've needed support. I'm proud to call DRTV members my extended family.
Swoop
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Another couple things about this forum. We are open to discussing ANYTHING that effects our lives. It's about the "Gun Culture lifestyle" and anything that effects us fits into that. As well as any subject or item that catches our interest ;D
Guns are the ONE subject that has brought us together here, but on "other interests" you can find people on here that can talk to you about anything from Music to cars, any job or interest you can think of is represented here.
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Hey HBMan, I have been to other forums seeking opinions, tips, tricks, personal experiences with a given firearm, all but TWO had the "elitist" members that belittled your # of posts, or lack of some kind of stature in the forum.
DRTV has NEVER been that way! I came here over a year ago because I bought a new rifle, and had questions. NOT ONCE, was I demeaned, belittled, or ridiculed for my inquiries, silly questions, or lack of experience.
I received sound advice and the legitimate paths to explore other options for myself. To me that is what a forum should be.
The only "elitist" thing I could say is, welcome. There is a "different" group here that has a wealth of knowledge that isn't about someone buying a certain "firearm", or shooting on a budget, or anything else related to what we all enjoy.
We enjoy firearms, politics, respectable debate, and America. We all need to have a place to rant, and this is as good a place as any, plus it keeps me out of trouble. ::)
That is why I am here and have enjoyed it so. I owe a lot of these fellow members.
Plus Marshal'ette, will put the mega smackdown on us if we seem "elitist" . She is the all seeing, all knowing,....
As they say back home, these are good people here.
Tom W.
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I quit a forum after being censored for questioning a position of one of their icons. The site administrator PMed me, he didn't refute my question, but he did make an insulting remark to me, so much for that "Christian" forum.
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I have been amazed that in a year and a half on here I have not seen anyone "ripped" for their choice of gun or ammo. Everyone talks about their favorites or preferences, we will point out issues others have had with a given make or model as a word of caution, but no belittling of choice ... unless it comes to Glock ;)
The Three M's also do a very good job of reigning us back in, without censoring, when we get carried away. Does anyone remember the frustration with a major manufacturer that got carried away? I don't think it took more than a couple days for cooler heads to get us back to our semi-mature mode.
Speaking of semi-mature, has anyone seen any good sales on Clips lately ... ;D
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Speaking of semi-mature, has anyone seen any good sales on Clips lately ... ;D
You know your asking for it,......
"Slowly I turn"....... 8)
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The only forum I have stoped posting in is CALGUNS.net some of the guys there are real SOB and don't think you are wroth a damn unles you have a CCW and spend every waking momment fluanting it. Thats not to say there are not alot of nice guys there, and there is a bunch of good info. its just brutal over there... more so if you ask a question that has already been answered.
None of the other "hobby" based forums I vist are like that. Infact most are really great people. Take the kitten for example, a couple drove from anaheim to sacramento to pick him up( droping him off at thier hotel in the morning) Thats atleast 450 miles each way. All this from a boating site.
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Speaking of semi-mature, has anyone seen any good sales on Clips lately ... Grin
You know your asking for it,......
"Slowly I turn"....... 8)
Some in here are either awfully gutsy.............or just want to start a "cat fight".. ;D
(((((Marshal'ette who is crouching low..pulling her weapon...listening for hisses coming form the feline alley way..)))
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It seems that people here want to pitch in. Especially, when the questions seem like they might be basic. Everybody has their "2 cents" and they still have fun talking about a favorite hobby. I think we all were a little sick when the forum went down for a while.
I don't think that I've ever actually registered for another forum. I'd read some, but was never convinced that I needed to be a part of them. I read posts here occasionally before joining too. It's kind of like a wacky distant family. You kind of get a sense of some members' personalities from their posts.
Does the HB in "HBMan" stand for Huntington Beach? If so, we're just about neighbors.
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Posted on: Today at 04:21:14 AM
Posted by: Fuzdaddy
Posted on: Today at 02:29:48 AM
Posted by: Marshal'ette Halloway
Posted on: Today at 02:07:09 AM
Posted by: TAB
Posted on: Today at 12:01:21 AM
Posted by: twyacht
Don't you people ever go to bed? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ;D :-\
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I have been amazed that in a year and a half on here I have not seen anyone "ripped" for their choice of gun or ammo. Everyone talks about their favorites or preferences, we will point out issues others have had with a given make or model as a word of caution, but no belittling of choice ... unless it comes to Glock ;)
The Three M's also do a very good job of reigning us back in, without censoring, when we get carried away. Does anyone remember the frustration with a major manufacturer that got carried away? I don't think it took more than a couple days for cooler heads to get us back to our semi-mature mode.
Speaking of semi-mature, has anyone seen any good sales on Clips lately ... ;D
You, sir are incorrigible and need to be given a sound thrashing! (http://www.smileyx.com/smilies/fighting0030.gif)
;D
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Posted on: Today at 04:21:14 AM
Posted by: Fuzdaddy
Posted on: Today at 02:29:48 AM
Posted by: Marshal'ette Halloway
Posted on: Today at 02:07:09 AM
Posted by: TAB
Posted on: Today at 12:01:21 AM
Posted by: twyacht
Don't you people ever go to bed? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ;D :-\
I've lived on 4 hours sleep for well over a decade.
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You, sir are incorrigible and need to be given a sound thrashing! (http://www.smileyx.com/smilies/fighting0030.gif)
;D
Come on over for a "beverage" of your choice ... We're just sittin around in our rocking chairs relaxing ;)
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I'll jump in here too. Except for the difference between magazine and clip, there never seems to be too much contention on this forum (although I do remember jumping down people's e-throat about something here or there).
It's a good gang with good information and a real appreciation for the gun culture.
This is not an elitist forum, it's the elite-est forum. :D
I go look around other places but rarely see anything interesting enough or more INFORMATIVE enough to bother. DRTV has everything pretty much.
We all appreciate what the 3 Ms do to keep this place as cool as it is, and when I think about the anti folks spying on us, I'm proud to be a part of what they're reading because they're seeing the real America.
Thanks to all of the members who really try to keep it this cool too. I certainly appreciate it.
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Perhaps because this forum isn't dedicated to one particular type of shooting or firearm is why you don't find "forum nazi's" here. Even though this forum is centered around MB's video productions we even occasionally mention those other shows....what's their names?
I'm registered on many other shooting boards, including several of the air gun forums. But I don't read them with any regularity. Primarily they are a resource when I have a particular question about that type of gun. RFC for rimfire questions. The Savage board for Savage questions, Walther for Walthers, S&W for..........etc.
Perhaps one of the more interesting boards that has a truly worldwide participation is Accurate Reloading. The name belies it's content as it has sub-groups for almost every topic from African big game to air guns. You have to be thoughtful about questions because you're posting to an audience that is not centered in the US. And responses sometimes open your eyes as to equipment and techniques that aren't common to the US.
http://accuratereloading.com/ (http://accuratereloading.com/)
(http://www.accuratereloading.com/forums/gun2.gif)
OH and they have one whole group dedicated to cats....big and little.
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Come on over for a "beverage" of your choice ... We're just sittin around in our rocking chairs relaxing ;)
This time of day make it a good spicy bloody Mary, thank you!
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This time of day make it a good spicy bloody Mary, thank you!
here is something I picked up in college from a bartender. take a bottle of vodka add about 25 pepper corns and let it sit for a week shaking every day. Strain the pepper corns and use for bloody marys.
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ahhhh nicey spicy.. :) :)
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here is something I picked up in college from a bartender. take a bottle of vodka add about 25 pepper corns and let it sit for a week shaking every day. Strain the pepper corns and use for bloody marys.
You can make great hot sauce, particulary for sea food the same way. Clean out a slad dressing bottle, add 4-6 datil (preffered) or serrano peppers, fill the bottle with dry sherry and after one to two weeks you've got a slightly sweet and very spicey sauce that is mo'better than tobasco or crystal on things like shrimp and fish. Although here you leave the peppers in, they last about 6 months.
FQ13
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Posted on: Today at 04:21:14 AM
Posted by: Fuzdaddy
Posted on: Today at 02:29:48 AM
Posted by: Marshal'ette Halloway
Posted on: Today at 02:07:09 AM
Posted by: TAB
Posted on: Today at 12:01:21 AM
Posted by: twyacht
Don't you people ever go to bed? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ;D :-\
I'm in California, so it's not quite as late/early as it looks.
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Does the HB in "HBMan" stand for Huntington Beach? If so, we're just about neighbors.
Fuzdaddy,
Not Huntington Beach more like the 45th parallel between the 106th and 107th meridans. Glad to call you neighbor all the same.
HBMan
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This is the only forum I post on. I have checked out others but the people I respect and watch on television giving tips and guidance like Michael Bane, Rob Pincus and Michael Janich are on here. They also take the time to respond to our questions on here. Everyone seems rather insightful and are willing to lend advice on here. ;)
Now I am thirsty thanks to all the comments about bloody mary's. Like mine with plenty of horseradish and Tabasco Habenero. Has enough sodium to make my heart explode so I try to leave them alone. :(
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As a card card carrying elitist, I resent all these denials. Hell, I've been called an elitist on this very board, and if you read it on DRTV, its got to be true. Newbie! ;D
FQ13
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You, sir are incorrigible and need to be given a sound thrashing! (http://www.smileyx.com/smilies/fighting0030.gif)
Clip at 11:00.
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As a card card carrying elitist, I resent all these denials. Hell, I've been called an elitist on this very board, and if you read it on DRTV, its got to be true. Newbie! ;D
FQ13
No, I'm the Elitist!
Sorry, just watched Spartacus, couldn't help myself.
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Posted on: Today at 04:21:14 AM
Posted by: Fuzdaddy
Posted on: Today at 02:29:48 AM
Posted by: Marshal'ette Halloway
Posted on: Today at 02:07:09 AM
Posted by: TAB
Posted on: Today at 12:01:21 AM
Posted by: twyacht
Don't you people ever go to bed? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ;D :-\
I try my best, but work keeps calling >:( Between being tied to the phone and then getting called at weird hours you never know when I'll be lurking ... To top it off I got to wake a guy in beautiful downtown Newton, KS a half hour ago ;D Always fun to compare fuzzy minds in the middle of the night.
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I quit a forum after being censored for questioning a position of one of their icons.
I've had much the same happen to me. I simply took an opposing, non derogatory viewpoint of a certain manufacturer of AR-15 rifles, and the response was to the tune of "How Dare I!" I was courteous in all of my remarks, and disrespected no one, but no matter. I was treated like a Branch Davidian who opposed the book of Revelation. I think what happens on a lot of these forums, (most certainly not this one), is attitude takes over common sense.
I think the biggest problem in forums that operate in that regard is they wind up driving off all of the really knowledgeable posters, and more or less end up with a mutual admiration society that becomes all but worthless except for stroking their own egos. Bill T.
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I spend a lot time on this and one other gun related forum at all hours of the day and night (sometimes) because I have been recovering from minor medical problems and have had trouble sleeping normal hours during recovery.
Early on, I had trouble asking a question on the other forum. Pulled the question and the individuals giving me the trouble apologized. Haven't heard much from them...don't even know if they are still around. Moderators are a bit stuffy and will pull a post or portion thereof rather than ask to have it modified. I think this is a bit much but.....that's just me. The young guys over there don't seem to respect age and experience and are of single purpose. Their claims are a bit much sometimes - like one guy picking up 25K Fed. sp primers for $25/k a week or so ago and another picking up a pallet of primers before that!!!!!
I can say just about whatever I want here, and usually do! Best bunch of people I will probably never get the chance to meet ftf, much to my dismay. Will do just about anything for any of us (and probably already have)!
I could go on but you get the idea (I hope).
FWIW
Richard
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Like Tom Bogan said, this one forum has it all.....it's the variety of experiences, tied together by mutual likes that makes DRTV different than many other forums. You can go from talking about what the best fight-stopping round is one minute, and what the best BBQ recipe is in the next.
Respectful and respectable folks with a wide range of knowledge, from worldly to spiritual and anywhere in between. It's all pretty much covered here.
What's not to like?
Why not stay once you get here? ;)
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I have really grown fond of these forums. I have been on the other gun related forums and no matter what you say someone will have to point out that your post count is low. I don't mind people that I know giving me sh!t about stuff, but I take a bit more insult to it if it comes from some one I have no clue is and because sarcasm doesn't come across well on the Internet. Plus like was pointed out before, it's great to have the creators and moderators of the forum actually respond to a question or just plain join in on the fun.
On a completely off topic and totally unrelated note, I have tried many bloody mary recipes and have never really found one I like. I drink more then any human really should so I would like to be able to find a version of the bloody mary that I would enjoy. Anyone got a kick ass version of one? Lord knows I need more vegetables in my diet no matter what form the come in. An I don't waste anything so if you offer one up that sucks, IMHO, I will still drink it. Which means more vegetables for me and would be doing me a great favor. Maybe by the 12th one they will all taste great. ;D ;D
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I tended bar for several years after my enlistment. The basics don't change much, just adjust the ingredients to your taste..
2/3 cup top-quality tomato juice (I always liked V8 juice)
2 to 3 ounces top-shelf vodka, depending on strength
1 teaspoon horseradish (I like it hot)
6 shakes tobasco sauce
1 teaspoon Worcestershire Sauce
Juice of 1/2 large lime
1/8 teaspoon sea salt (can substitute, try seasoned salt)
1/8 teaspoon freshly-ground black pepper
Celery stalk
Mix it seperate from the ice so you don't dilute the drink and pour over ice to serve...enjoy!!! ;)
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Sounds more like a marinade than a drink.......... ;D ;D ;D
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It is a marinade.....it is designed to tenderize the toughest of dates!
It can do double duty as a healthy breakfast as well. Make sure the date is pretty before you start the tenderizing so's not to scare yourself at breakfast!
;D did I notice a corner somewhere?
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I've never tried one with horseradish in it. I love spicy stuff. And I swore there was Worcestershire in the mix somewhere but sometimes I forget.
Definitely going to have to try that one. And if it doesn't work out for me, it really does sound like it would make a great marinade. ;D
If you don't mind, add that to the thread I just started.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,6560.0.html
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I've never tried one with horseradish in it. I love spicy stuff. And I swore there was Worcestershire in the mix somewhere but sometimes I forget.
Definitely going to have to try that one. And if it doesn't work out for me, it really does sound like it would make a great marinade. ;D
If you don't mind, add that to the thread I just started.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php/topic,6560.0.html
Want to try something different? Put pickled Okra in it, with a splash of Clam juice and lime. No celery. Or a dash of Old Bay Seasoning.
I love a Bloody Mary, don;t get me started on a Slimey Slider version....(It has to be oyster season).... ::)
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Don't you people ever go to bed? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
I asked the same question the other night! I know I'm messed up so I had to ask what others did so late/early?
But to answer the question.. This has been a great site with lots of valuable information and fun ribbin'
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I think the biggest problem in forums that operate in that regard is they wind up driving off all of the really knowledgeable posters, and more or less end up with a mutual admiration society that becomes all but worthless except for stroking their own egos. Bill T.
BINGO! Then there are the ones that can afford anything and flaunt it. Also drove off are the low count posters with a different point of view and new stories or new information.
HBMan
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Like Tom Bogan said, this one forum has it all.....it's the variety of experiences, tied together by mutual likes that makes DRTV different than many other forums. You can go from talking about what the best fight-stopping round is one minute, and what the best BBQ recipe is in the next.
Respectful and respectable folks with a wide range of knowledge, from worldly to spiritual and anywhere in between. It's all pretty much covered here.
What's not to like?
Why not stay once you get here? ;)
Amen to that. Even though a few elbows get thrown, its generally not personal, and tends to generate not just heat, but light. I've learned from the political (and yes even spiritual) debates (hell, even Tom has a point now and then) and I've sure learned a lot about guns, music and mixed drinks. The point about respectable folks is key too. I decided to clean out the safe, and sell a few guns I don't shoot too often. I have had no problem sending them to a member of this board on approval to shoot and see if they like it and return it if they don't. That's not an offer I would make on most gun forums. Its just that I think that here, folks feel free to be themselves, and you get a sense of someone as a result. This is, unfortunatley, a pretty unique place. The cool thing though, is that its not the moderators that make it so. It tends to be self policing. As a Libertarian, this makes me happy.
FQ13
FQ13
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Amen to that. Even though a few elbows get thrown, its generally not personal, and tends to generate not just heat, but light. I've learned from the political (and yes even spiritual) debates (hell, even Tom has a point now and then) and I've sure learned a lot about guns, music and mixed drinks. The point about respectable folks is key too. I decided to clean out the safe, and sell a few guns I don't shoot too often. I have had no problem sending them to a member of this board on approval to shoot and see if they like it and return it if they don't. That's not an offer I would make on most gun forums. Its just that I think that here, folks feel free to be themselves, and you get a sense of someone as a result. This is, unfortunatley, a pretty unique place. The cool thing though, is that its not the moderators that make it so. It tends to be self policing. As a Libertarian, this makes me happy.
FQ13
FQ13
We generally only throw elbows at those we're pretty sure can take it ;D
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~ Resurrecting an Old Thread ~
After seeing for a few times now people kind of jumping on some of the NOOB's around maybe it should be remembered.
The political climate and other crap in general has maybe made people a little testier than most times and I wanted to remind everyone we are all here for the same cause. No matter what your religious belief or your political stance is. I don't claim to be Rep or Dem. I just want someone in the position to do something right for once. I don't know why (and I'm sure that FQ or TB will explain) we need parties to start with now. There are Rep jumping to the Dem side Dems are jumping Rep mostly on gun issues so why do we need REP and DEM? Just be an elected official and do a good job.
So in summation. We are all here for Life Liberty and the pursuit of kicking someones ass when it needs it.
Thanks for listening
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~ Resurrecting an Old Thread ~
After seeing for a few times now people kind of jumping on some of the NOOB's around maybe it should be remembered.
The political climate and other crap in general has maybe made people a little testier than most times and I wanted to remind everyone we are all here for the same cause. No matter what your religious belief or your political stance is. I don't claim to be Rep or Dem. I just want someone in the position to do something right for once. I don't know why (and I'm sure that FQ or TB will explain) we need parties to start with now. There are Rep jumping to the Dem side Dems are jumping Rep mostly on gun issues so why do we need REP and DEM? Just be an elected official and do a good job.
So in summation. We are all here for Life Liberty and the pursuit of kicking someones ass when it needs it.
Thanks for listening
Good post. heard and understood.
FQ13
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Religion, Politics, Glock, and 45 versus 9MM are always the best ways to start fights ;D
Just need to keep it in perspective ;D
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Religion, Politics, Glock, and 45 versus 9MM are always the best ways to start fights ;D
Just need to keep it in perspective ;D
Exactly!!
Although I say Screw GLOCK and buy Walther - Poly pistol, Striker Fired with Decock (so you don't have to pull the trigger to disassemble)
;D
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Don't look at ME, I carry a 1911 ;D
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Exactly!!
Although I say Screw GLOCK and buy Walther - Poly pistol, Striker Fired with Decock (so you don't have to pull the trigger to disassemble)
;D
Slowly, I turn..... ;D
FQ13
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"Good post. heard and understood.
FQ13"
Dang-it, once again I am forced to agree with FQ13. This has got to stop FQ, or we'll end up having drinks and comparing Glocks, or sumpum'
;)
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We have those people show up every once in a while, but we all usually Ranger Up and chase them varmints off before they can become too much trouble..... ;)
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I tried to register for a forum and never got OK'd and could never fully take advantage of the site so I didn't bother. Guess it wasn't worth it in the first place!
JMHO
Richard
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"Good post. heard and understood.
FQ13"
Dang-it, once again I am forced to agree with FQ13. This has got to stop FQ, or we'll end up having drinks and comparing Glocks, or sumpum'
;)
CR, there is a "12 Step Program" available at your local Junior College.....it's tough, but eventually you will learn to disagree with FQ again.
Be Brave! One day at a time, "God, grant me the serenity!"....
;D
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Just too much to be bitter about it seems like lately. It is great to have such knowledge experience and entertainment in one place to not remind ourselves once in a while that this is suppose to be fun. Didn't mean to be a kill-joy
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I was "banned" from the HiPoint Firearms forum several weeks ago by "someone" for an unknown reason. I enjoyed that forum for it's informational value. I never cussed anyone,never berated anyone and was hopeing to be there for a long time. The unidentified "offical" e-mailed me 2 days after my last post and siad I was banned. There was no reason given for any offence that I may have made ( dammed if I knew of any offence ).
The bottom line is that although I would like to be there in the forum I have no need to be where I am not wanted.
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I was "banned" from the HiPoint Firearms forum several weeks ago by "someone" for an unknown reason. I enjoyed that forum for it's informational value. I never cussed anyone,never berated anyone and was hopeing to be there for a long time. The unidentified "offical" e-mailed me 2 days after my last post and siad I was banned. There was no reason given for any offence that I may have made ( dammed if I knew of any offence ).
The bottom line is that although I would like to be there in the forum I have no need to be where I am not wanted.
Don't sweat it. We take anybody's rejects here, kind of like the Foriegn Legion. ;D ;D ;D
FQ13 who wonders how you got kicked off a Hi-point forum. What did you do, buy a real gun? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (just kidding I've come close to buying one of their carbines myself)
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I was "banned" from the HiPoint Firearms forum several weeks ago by "someone" for an unknown reason. I enjoyed that forum for it's informational value. I never cussed anyone,never berated anyone and was hopeing to be there for a long time. The unidentified "offical" e-mailed me 2 days after my last post and siad I was banned. There was no reason given for any offence that I may have made ( dammed if I knew of any offence ).
The bottom line is that although I would like to be there in the forum I have no need to be where I am not wanted.
That's one of the reasons I don't hang out at too many other fora - the mods can be total assholes and way overboard on the power and authority. One can almost guess that they have precious little of either in their personal lives.
At one forum one of the mods is a 20-something woman who is under the impression that she is the center of the universe (how unlike a 20-something, eh?) and has concocted nicknames for herself involving the word "ban". ::) ??? :o
<sigh>
There's always lurking around the forum, no? Register under a different email account? Force your ISP to change your IP address and they will never find you. Do it just to piss them off! ;D
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Heck, I am a member of several forums, but lit here and here is pretty much the only one I post on.
And that's because of the people here.
Y'all actually 'put up' with my drivel. :-*
8)
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Heck, I am a member of several forums, but lit here and here is pretty much the only one I post on.
And that's because of the people here.
Y'all actually 'put up' with my drivel. :-*
8)
You mean all we need to do is quit letting you rant and you will go away?
Wow, I didn't know it would be so easy ... Bye Bye ;)
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You mean all we need to do is quit letting you rant and you will go away?
Wow, I didn't know it would be so easy ... Bye Bye ;)
Rant??
ME??
Nevahhhh.... :o
I'll leave that to folks that are better at it than me.... ;)
Now, stirring the pot, on the other hand......... ;D
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There are NO other forums that I am aware of where you can rub elbows with the next President and Vice President of the United States, except THIS one!! ;D
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I joined the M+P forum, in 08, and left in 08, maybe it was just the vast number of folks posting, but it was; I'm right and your a schmuck for doing "whatever" differently.
The tone and vibe was all very "elitist", maybe it's changed. Usually the Walther forum is OK unless you get the Interarms are real Walthers, the S&W all suck guy,....
The KTOG forum is down to earth, and lots of good info there for Kel-Tec owners. Others are about the same.
If I have question about a 9mm I own, I don't need to read a post from .45 "God" that won't even respond to us lesser caliber owners, but will take time to post about his disdain for anything less... >:(
This forum is/has always been thankfully different. I even agreed with TAB the other night... :o
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This forum is/has always been thankfully different. I even agreed with TAB the other night... :o
CR, there is a "12 Step Program" available at your local Junior College.....it's tough, but eventually you will learn to disagree with FQ again.
Be Brave! One day at a time, "God, grant me the serenity!"....
;D
This program works for TAB as well.....
;D
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There are NO other forums that I am aware of where you can rub elbows with the next President and Vice President of the United States, except THIS one!! ;D
I don't know about rubbing elbows, but raising the cholesterol level is a plus!
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I joined the M+P forum, in 08, and left in 08, maybe it was just the vast number of folks posting, but it was; I'm right and your a schmuck for doing "whatever" differently.
The tone and vibe was all very "elitist", maybe it's changed. Usually the Walther forum is OK unless you get the Interarms are real Walthers, the S&W all suck guy,....
The KTOG forum is down to earth, and lots of good info there for Kel-Tec owners. Others are about the same.
If I have question about a 9mm I own, I don't need to read a post from .45 "God" that won't even respond to us lesser caliber owners, but will take time to post about his disdain for anything less... >:(
This forum is/has always been thankfully different. I even agreed with TAB the other night... :o
A 9MM! You need 2 of those to be as good as a .45! And Another thing..... ;D
KIDDING! (sort of ;D)
I used to hang out on Glocktalk forum, but just sort of drifted away for whatever reason.... It seemed to be a really friendly one, for the most part. I just got tired of hanging around there all the time. Then wandered in here, and like the format better. Y'all just TRY getting rid of me! ;D
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I don't know about rubbing elbows, but raising the cholesterol level is a plus!
We need to have another cholesterol raising session one of these days. SOON!!! ;D
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I am on a few forums
and would be active on about 5 or 6
however this one and Australian Hunting Net are the 2 I would say I am most active on
the reasons are they both are similar, in regards to how they are run
we don't have a lot of censorship ( and that is definitely on AHN ) we get to say what we think even if you don't agree
we do more than just talk guns / defence / hunting / shooting it is about the life style families and more even the shits and giggles we have
the best way I can describe it is it is like being at the pup with mates all having a chat and a few beers, telling stories and having fun
I could go on how good it is here however I would want to hit my self for brown nosing any more ;)
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Interesting topic: It is a very small person who will not set aside their own ego to reach out and help others. Those that RIP others need our help most and are the most unwilling to receive any help. You are right that this suppresses new member question and that is a shame. My thoughts for what it is worth? R S