I put all of these people into much the same category as the drunk Aussie who climbed into the Crocodile cage to ride "Fatso". I don't want to see harm come to anyone, but when you're all but begging for it............ Oh well. Most of these people desperately need, but do not have, a hobby. Like Al Pacino said to his worthless wife in "Scarface", "Why don't you go work with blind kids or something?". Bill T.