Gangsta Grip ?

[tombogan03884]

FQ, I don't know WHY they do it, but I have heard of that " Israeli method " as well. As I understood it though the pistol was rotated upright as the support hand moved back to the grip.

[r_w]

Why would you carry a pistol without a round in the chamber? What's the point? I mean, I leave my guns at home loaded with an empty chamber (kid free house), but thats because I figure I'll have that extra second it wil take to rack a round in. As far as carrying, I'd rather carry an SA revolver than an auto with an empty chamber. However as far as the morale boost, I half agree with you. If my assailant holds his gun sideways, I figure I can run away without getting hit (serpentine, serpentine ). On the other hand, if I do get hit, I'll die knowing I got killed by a fool and that will piss me off.
FQ13  

I was told they do it because that is the way they started back when they had any gun they could scrounge--umpteen different safeties, many used with worn sears, no transfer bars, etc.  It was ONE MANUAL OF ARMS that was safe and consistent.  Carried on because of tradition and need to unload for various buildings/securezones.

Just what I heard...

[tombogan03884]

That explanation makes a lot of sense.

[garand4life]

Why would you carry a pistol without a round in the chamber? What's the point? I mean, I leave my guns at home loaded with an empty chamber (kid free house), but thats because I figure I'll have that extra second it wil take to rack a round in. As far as carrying, I'd rather carry an SA revolver than an auto with an empty chamber. However as far as the morale boost, I half agree with you. If my assailant holds his gun sideways, I figure I can run away without getting hit (serpentine, serpentine ). On the other hand, if I do get hit, I'll die knowing I got killed by a fool and that will piss me off.
FQ13 

Ask the Army. It is standard procedure to carry the Beretta M9 without a round in the chamber.

[ECHOONE]

  Not true Ganster grip,but might be what there trying to mimick! The grip related to the C.A.R. Technique which has been proven to be a dominate grip over other systems.The SLIGHT angling of the pistol  in the C.A.R. "locked" wrist position works in natural harmony with the wrist, and bone structures themselves,which increases wrist stability,and causes major reduction of arm fatigue.If Used with the C.A.R. stance give's natural bone alignment so there is no felt recoil, hence faster repeated shoots that are accurate!

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[Grizzle_Bear]

If a Revolutionary soldier REALLY tried to use the "Gangsta Grip" the priming powder would have fallen out of the frizzen when he fired resulting in a misfire.

A good flintlock will fire just fine upside-down.  I have done this.

I thought the sideways shooting hold was developed by SWAT teams so they could shoot while holding the clear plastic shield in front of themselves.

Grizzle Bear

[ratcatcher55]

I was told they do it because that is the way they started back when they had any gun they could scrounge--umpteen different safeties, many used with worn sears, no transfer bars, etc.  It was ONE MANUAL OF ARMS that was safe and consistent.  Carried on because of tradition and need to unload for various buildings/securezones.

Just what I heard...

+1 was told by several IMF folks as well. I believe they have eliminated it from the modern training in the army.

[Tyler Durden]

ratcatcher wrote:

+1 was told by several IMF folks as well. I believe they have eliminated it from the modern training in the army.

IMF?

Impossible Mission Force?  Really?  Kewl!  Was this before or after Tom Cruise rappelled into CIA HQ and stole the NOC list?

 

 

[mydogtaz]

not to get off topic,dog,but why do want to leave the chamber empty????i have my cs45 with a round in the chamber ALWAYS,whever on me, in my house, or in my vehicle.i want to be able to grab and shoot if i need to without wondering is it ready to fire or do i need to rack the slide.just my personal preference.word....

[tombogan03884]

not to get off topic,dog,but why do want to leave the chamber empty????i have my cs45 with a round in the chamber ALWAYS,whever on me, in my house, or in my vehicle.i want to be able to grab and shoot if i need to without wondering is it ready to fire or do i need to rack the slide.just my personal preference.word....

Because at the time the Israeli's were using a total mish mash of hand guns, everything from Nagant's, Lugers, brownings and pretty much every other pistol you can imagine. They needed a manual of arms that would work for everything.