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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2010, 09:14:59 AM »
I have noted this before, but I will say again:  We have forgotten HOW to win wars.  Are we militarily superior?  Without question we are.  Are our men and women the bravest in the world?  They have shown that time and time again.  Will we actually forget about political correctness and win?  Sorry.  Not in the cards.  We, as a nation, are too concerned about how we might be perceived by the rest of the world to do what it takes to win.  And we allow politicos to be in charge instead of letting the generals lead the way (or, we make it impossible for a general officer to lead by making him into a political pawn).

Until we figure out that Fanatical Islam wants us DEAD, we will not do what is needed.  And we are showing no indication of recognizing the truth.

I continue to weep for my country.

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And THAT Crusader, is exactly WHY we have been at war for (going on) 9 YEARS! We should have been done in Afghanistan in 9 months. Iraq should have taken no longer than a year. But the bleeding hearts will never allow our military to do the deed. I think that we would be much more respected in the world by WINNING wars instead of wallowing in the combat zone.

And I realize that this started in Vietnam, but how in the hell did it ever become fashionable to side with the enemy?
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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2010, 09:18:21 AM »
I read about a war where small bands of fighters faced the forces of a foreign army that was better armed, trained, supplied  and equipped.

The foreign army used the tactics of the day which were for the opposing forces to meet on the field of battle, form into rows and march towards each other, firing as they did so.

Well, the home team, knowing they could never match their opponents fighting by their opponents rules, hid behind the trees and bushes and harassed and ambushed the enemy rather than face them toe to toe.

I am sure they were considered cowards by the foreign army for not fighting out in the open like Real Men.

 

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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2010, 09:46:33 AM »
JC5123 said: And I realize that this started in Vietnam, but how in the hell did it ever become fashionable to side with the enemy?

Actually, I think it started in Korea where we decidedNOT to pursue the enemy beyond what became the border of N&S Korea.  If we would have gone ahead and kicked a$$ then, many of the problems we have had in the last 50 years would have been avoided.  Still, the lefties in this country will maintain that huggs and kisses are all it will take to win over those who would do us harm.  A more dangerous philosophy does not exist.

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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2010, 09:59:36 AM »
Thanks for the clarification. Forgive me, my history on those 2 wars is a little fuzzy. They were before my time, and I was publicly educated. I do understand though, that when someone means to do you harm, you don't try to understand their pain and make nice with them. You pull out vastly superior firepower and kill the mother @%$#$#%. Save the hugs and kisses for your family.

This is the worry that I have in our current political climate. Our government is more concerned with the welfare of our enemy, then the well being of it's own people. I suppose there comes a time when a free society must rise up against those in power, because corruption has crippled the system. This is the time I believe we are living in. The American people are at war. Make no mistake. Only this time it is up to us, the people to win it. The arrogant asshats in Washington have no will to win. Certainly no backbone to do what is required.

Could it be that is the reason for the bowing BHO? He has no spine? ::)
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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2010, 11:32:41 AM »
Here's a little different angle on why they are so eager to meet Allah.

From Psychology Today: Ten Politically Incorrect Truths About Human Nature
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200706/ten-politically-incorrect-truths-about-human-nature

Most suicide bombers are Muslim

According to the Oxford University sociologist Diego Gambetta, editor of Making Sense of Suicide Missions, a comprehensive history of this troubling yet topical phenomenon, while suicide missions are not always religiously motivated, when religion is involved, it is always Muslim. Why is this? Why is Islam the only religion that motivates its followers to commit suicide missions?

The surprising answer from the evolutionary psychological perspective is that Muslim suicide bombing may have nothing to do with Islam or the Koran (except for two lines in it). It may have nothing to do with the religion, politics, the culture, the race, the ethnicity, the language, or the region. As with everything else from this perspective, it may have a lot to do with sex, or, in this case, the absence of sex.

What distinguishes Islam from other major religions is that it tolerates polygyny. By allowing some men to monopolize all women and altogether excluding many men from reproductive opportunities, polygyny creates shortages of available women. If 50 percent of men have two wives each, then the other 50 percent don't get any wives at all.

So polygyny increases competitive pressure on men, especially young men of low status. It therefore increases the likelihood that young men resort to violent means to gain access to mates. By doing so, they have little to lose and much to gain compared with men who already have wives. Across all societies, polygyny makes men violent, increasing crimes such as murder and rape, even after controlling for such obvious factors as economic development, economic inequality, population density, the level of democracy, and political factors in the region.

However, polygyny itself is not a sufficient cause of suicide bombing. Societies in sub-Saharan Africa and the Caribbean are much more polygynous than the Muslim nations in the Middle East and North Africa. And they do have very high levels of violence. Sub-Saharan Africa suffers from a long history of continuous civil wars—but not suicide bombings.

The other key ingredient is the promise of 72 virgins waiting in heaven for any martyr in Islam. The prospect of exclusive access to virgins may not be so appealing to anyone who has even one mate on earth, which strict monogamy virtually guarantees. However, the prospect is quite appealing to anyone who faces the bleak reality on earth of being a complete reproductive loser.

It is the combination of polygyny and the promise of a large harem of virgins in heaven that motivates many young Muslim men to commit suicide bombings. Consistent with this explanation, all studies of suicide bombers indicate that they are significantly younger than not only the Muslim population in general but other (nonsuicidal) members of their own extreme political organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. And nearly all suicide bombers are single.


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Re: The True face of Islam
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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2010, 01:51:44 PM »
As much as I despise Psycho babble BS. I have to say this does in fact make sense. Wife stealing has a long tradition in such societies as the Arab, African, and Native American.

FQ, Iraq is a different situation than Afghanistan. Iraq DID have a long history of submitting to a central government. One of Histories earliest inscriptions describes Sargon The Great" defeating a rebellious vassal city.
We needed to stay to support the new Govt until they got control of the situation. Another reason for staying is to keep killing off the Iranians and other Fanatics coming to take a shot at the Americans.
Combat in Iraq is one of the few regular contacts between the US Gov and the upper echelons of the Muslim fundamentalist movement, there fore it serves as a Primary source of both Human intelligence from Prisoners but also of Technical intelligence through analysis of captured gear.

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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2010, 02:21:15 PM »

we get this guy laid, we won't have any trouble!


Ok..so we need to help get prostitution established in Iraq. 

They are gonna need advice on how to set it all up to avoid the financial, social and legal pitfalls that they will encounter.

Sounds like a job for ACORN...
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
— Daniel Webster

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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2010, 02:35:52 PM »
Ok..so we need to help get prostitution established in Iraq. 

They are gonna need advice on how to set it all up to avoid the financial, social and legal pitfalls that they will encounter.

Sounds like a job for ACORN...

It would be poetic justice to "plant that seed"  ;D

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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2010, 02:47:34 PM »
I don't know, being the "Prostitution Czar", with full diplomatic immunity of course, doesn't sound like such a bad job. Tom and TT, I know Vitter and Spitzer have better resumes, but I will still put my hat in the ring. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The True face of Islam
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2010, 04:30:44 PM »
Ok..so we need to help get prostitution established in Iraq. 

They are gonna need advice on how to set it all up to avoid the financial, social and legal pitfalls that they will encounter.

Sounds like a job for ACORN...

Screwing people for money?

Sounds more like a job for Congress.

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