So what is the value of a gun on the black market?

[TAB]

I've often wondered this.  What is the value of a gun sold on the black market.

In this case I'm talking about run of the mil hand guns.  revos, more common autos... etc


Are they worth more or less then the "going rate" on the legal market?


your thoughts

[Solus]

My guess is less.

It's second hand and has likely been reported as stolen.

I see two types of buyers.  Those who cannot legally purchase and those who can but don't want a paper trail.

Each can try for a buy from a private citizen and avoid the legal hassle.

The illegal buyer will pursue stealing his own weapon if the price it too  high.

The legit buyer will keep looking.

[fightingquaker13]

It also depends on the weapon's history. If its stolen, or has previously been used in a crime, the value drops as most potential buyers anticipate that they might come into contact with the police.
FQ13 who still thinks its a good question

[SigShooter]

Well, what if the guns are from across the border and never sold in the US? Those would be worth at least law enforcement prices (especially full auto weapons) if in new condition and without any paper trail.

[fightingquaker13]

Well, what if the guns are from across the border and never sold in the US? Those would be worth at least law enforcement prices (especially full auto weapons) if in new condition and without any paper trail.

If you have one, post it in the classifieds. I sure won't tell.
FQ13

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[r_w]

Depends on supply and demand.

If it is a state/country with easy legal availability, the price is less than gunshow price (equivalent of used trade-in value).

If it is someplace with highly restricted access, it is a premium.  I do know that in Haiti post earthquake guns were going for roughly double MSRP.  Glocks were a grand, AR's were two.

Just like drugs, alcohol, tobacco, and every other .gov regulated item.

[Solus]

If you have one, post it in the classifieds. I sure won't tell.
FQ13

HaHa, FQ.  don't listen to him, Sig.

IM me with what you got and we can work on prices if I find something I like  

[PegLeg45]

I think it all depends on the gun.

A 'hot' gun is usually sold for way less because of the 'hot' status.

However, I have heard of guns selling for 2 to 3 times their actual value if the gun is not stolen.
I was approached at work once by some out of state contractors that were doing some work for the company. They had been inquiring around about folks who might be 'know' about guns. They ended up being sent to me. They wanted to know if I knew where they could by some "cheap" guns (think Hi-Point, no, not knocking the gun). They were from Texas and said they could sell a $100 el-cheapo for $300 or even more to gangs back in Texas.
I dis-associated myself from those guys in a fast hurry.

[fightingquaker13]

I think it all depends on the gun.

A 'hot' gun is usually sold for way less because of the 'hot' status.

However, I have heard of guns selling for 2 to 3 times their actual value if the gun is not stolen.
I was approached at work once by some out of state contractors that were doing some work for the company. They had been inquiring around about folks who might be 'know' about guns. They ended up being sent to me. They wanted to know if I knew where they could by some "cheap" guns (think Hi-Point, no, not knocking the gun). They were from Texas and said they could sell a $100 el-cheapo for $300 or even more to gangs back in Texas.
I dis-associated myself from those guys in a fast hurry.

If they were from Tx. why were they trying to buy guns in Ga.? I mean hell, assuming you can pass the background check you can buy a trunk load of whatever you want. I guess they thought it would be harder to trace. Idiots. The federal form is, well, federal and it takes two phone calls to put a cop on your phone line. Wise to avoid them Peg, no amount of money is worth that kind of trouble. Plus they were scumbags.
FQ13

[PegLeg45]

If they were from Tx. why were they trying to buy guns in Ga.? I mean hell, assuming you can pass the background check you can buy a trunk load of whatever you want. I guess they thought it would be harder to trace. Idiots. The federal form is, well, federal and it takes two phone calls to put a cop on your phone line. Wise to avoid them Peg, no amount of money is worth that kind of trouble. Plus they were scumbags.
FQ13

Basically, they were looking for cheap, face-to-face purchases. I doubt they could have passed a NICS check in the first place.
Me want no troubles with the law....I like my guns.