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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2008, 08:27:24 PM »
a) the practical impact of the challenged restric-
tions on the plaintiff’s ability to possess firearms for
lawful purposes (which depends in turn on the nature
and functional adequacy of available alternatives[/i]), ITALICS MINE

Can y'all imagine the ALTRENATIVES the Bushocrats will offer us? Big fat rocks, peashooters, maybe slingshots. I'm really hot to learn whether my air pistol will take down a boarhog as fast and as decisively as my SW.460. Alternatives? WHAT alternatives?

There's just NO ALTERNATIVES. Like John Lennon hisself sang, "happiness is a warm gun." The framers knew what they were doing when the told us that congress SHALL MAKE NO LAWS...

Though technology makes the Framers' point less salient than in 1776, it's still true that the ULTIMATE defense the people have against a tyrannical government of "patriots" like Bush, Pelosi, Reid, McCain, Obama and the rest of 'em, is an armed citizenry. A HEAVILY armed citizenry.

The government is now an entity unto itself and it's goal is to gain complete control of all of us. Especially those of us that work and toil and make the danged country what it is. This trend that began with B.S. Clinton and is so astonishingly lock-stepped by the RINO-in-Chief, the King of Bushocrats himself, is a LOUD and CLEAR signal to stockpile arms and ammo starting right now. The day is coming when our "own" government will be coming after guys and gals just like me and you.

ALTERNATIVES???    

Poop on them all. Out of my cold, dead hands...

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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2008, 09:00:27 PM »
I think I'll put in my 2 cents on this.

I just took my absentee MI primary ballot to the township clerk's office on the way to the gym. I am way over 60 so that's the way I get to vote. I like Fred. But I did not vote for him. He never set foot in my state to ask for my vote. I like Duncan as well. I did not vote for him either. Because neither Fred or Duncan has any chance at all in Michigan. So, I voted for the one I thought could beat the Democrats. At least the RINOs have to pretend to pay attention to us. The Dems do not ever pay attention and pursue agendas that are hurtful, e.g. higher taxes, more hateful gun control.

Further the 2006 election sent a strong message to the Republicans left in Congress. Congress where the laws start is the more important place to me. A RINO president who can't get the support of Congress is better to me than a Dem president who has a Dem Congress to back him or her to do bad things.

I will vote in November as well. And I will vote again for the candidate that I think will be best for the country. To hell with this lesser of two evils thinking. You have to vote one way or the other that's it. That is the way it works. If you don't go to the polls and vote, you are voting for the bad guys in the race.

I am not entirely happy with the government's brief. But there better be other briefs for the Supreems to consider as well or I have been sending money to the NRA for many years for naught. I see the subject brief as what one would expect from the ATF and the Justice functionaries -- no surprise there. True, I would have hoped for some more adult supervision from Bush, but he ran on support for the AWB and signed McCain Feingold. So there is no surprise there either, even though I hoped for better. I KNOW it would have been worse with either Gore or Kerry. And will be worse with H. Clinton.

That's a lot for 2 cents.
Bill I agree with you 100%!! Everyone seems to think it has to get worse before it gets better. In this case, worse would be Dems in control of congress and the Presidency. If that happens we are DONE! The hard line gun grabbers would have nothing stoping them! You guys better start buying PVC pipe and digging holes in your yard to bury your guns!
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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2008, 02:13:51 AM »
There is a gun newsletter that had an interesting artical this week about that brief www.shootingwire.com
 He says it was submited by BATF paperpushers looking to protect their jobs. What he quotes contains MAJOR flaws.
 Remember what the constitution says about assigned powers when you read it

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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2008, 06:31:27 AM »
a) the practical impact of the challenged restric-
tions on the plaintiff’s ability to possess firearms for
lawful purposes (which depends in turn on the nature
and functional adequacy of available alternatives[/i]), ITALICS MINE

Can y'all imagine the ALTRENATIVES the Bushocrats will offer us? Big fat rocks, peashooters, maybe slingshots. I'm really hot to learn whether my air pistol will take down a boarhog as fast and as decisively as my SW.460. Alternatives? WHAT alternatives?

There's just NO ALTERNATIVES. Like John Lennon hisself sang, "happiness is a warm gun." The framers knew what they were doing when the told us that congress SHALL MAKE NO LAWS...

Though technology makes the Framers' point less salient than in 1776, it's still true that the ULTIMATE defense the people have against a tyrannical government of "patriots" like Bush, Pelosi, Reid, McCain, Obama and the rest of 'em, is an armed citizenry. A HEAVILY armed citizenry.

The government is now an entity unto itself and it's goal is to gain complete control of all of us. Especially those of us that work and toil and make the danged country what it is. This trend that began with B.S. Clinton and is so astonishingly lock-stepped by the RINO-in-Chief, the King of Bushocrats himself, is a LOUD and CLEAR signal to stockpile arms and ammo starting right now. The day is coming when our "own" government will be coming after guys and gals just like me and you.

ALTERNATIVES???    

Poop on them all. Out of my cold, dead hands...

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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2008, 08:25:29 AM »
Bad Brief: The Bush DOJ shoots at the Second Amedment 

By John R. Lott, Jr.

Quotes by the two sides’ lawyers say it all. The District’s acting attorney general, Peter Nickles, happily noted that the Justice Department’s brief was a “somewhat surprising and very favorable development.” Alan Gura, the attorney who will be representing those challenging the ban before the Supreme Court, accused the Bush administration of “basically siding with the District of Columbia” and said that “This is definitely hostile to our position.”

More at link http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/NROBushDCGunBan011408.html
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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2008, 08:39:54 AM »
"I am no longer in the business of voting for the "lesser evil." The lesser evil is still evil."

MB is not alone, Duncan Hunter is a lost cause, so it's Fred or nothing for me.  I am off the SC tomorrow to volunteer, because when I sit out the election if Fred is not on the (R) ticket, I don't want it to be just sour grapes.  And I am certain we will not be alone.  Sure am glad I voted for the GW twice (NOT).  From McCain-Feingold to Harriet Meirs, it has been really "special".  Who was it that sang "Won't get fooled again"?

I expect that the SCOTUS will basically agree with the Justice brief, and the Liberals will cry in public and break out the champagne in private.

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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2008, 12:35:04 PM »
"I am no longer in the business of voting for the "lesser evil." The lesser evil is still evil."



I expect that the SCOTUS will basically agree with the Justice brief, and the Liberals will cry in public and break out the champagne in private.
Where the hell are we going to be in four years, when the Dems are in control of congress and the Presidency???? Sitting out and just letting them have a free pass to take over is not the way to go! I can't have what I want so I'm gona hold my breath! That's gonna work! Lets face it a RINO is better than the alturnitive!  Did you guys ever hear the term "Live to fight another day"?  If we sit this one out, there just might not be another day! The damage that they can do to us, and our rights unabaited it just too much to risk!!!!!
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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2008, 02:05:20 PM »
Where the hell are we going to be in four years, when the Dems are in control of congress and the Presidency???? Sitting out and just letting them have a free pass to take over is not the way to go! I can't have what I want so I'm gona hold my breath! That's gonna work! Lets face it a RINO is better than the alturnitive!  Did you guys ever hear the term "Live to fight another day"?  If we sit this one out, there just might not be another day! The damage that they can do to us, and our rights unabaited it just too much to risk!!!!!

It won't be any different with the RINOs.
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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2008, 02:25:39 PM »
It won't be any different with the RINOs.
It IS different. We have a RINO now and what did we lose? As I said before, let the Dems win in a landslide and you haven't done anything but prove there point! It will all be taken out of context. "The country needed a change to the left" is all you'll hear. What does that prove? Did you ever see us get anything back that was taken away? Let the Dems in and see what we lose! I like Fred too! But he is as lazy as two dead flies! He doesn't even go to a state that he thinks he can't win. We are hitching our wagon to a dead horse!
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Re: Government files amicus -- on DC's side!
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2008, 02:52:27 PM »
No, it is not different.  Any of the front runners will do the same to us.

If the NRA won't stand up for us (and with their press release on this they didn't) then WE have to send a message.  The only way we can is to vote strict 2A.  Rooty, Myth and McInsane are anti 2A.
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