Government files amicus -- on DC's side!

[ismram]

No, it is not different.  Any of the front runners will do the same to us.

If the NRA won't stand up for us (and with their press release on this they didn't) then WE have to send a message.  The only way we can is to vote strict 2A.  Rooty, Myth and McInsane are anti 2A.

If a RINO wins we lose. If a Dem wins we may lose everything!  That's how I see it.

[tombogan03884]

Buy Ammo

[emergncynrs]

I have to agree that we may lose either way we go with this election. Maybe the time has come for gun owners, hunters, shooters and other lovers of the 2nd Amendment to form a new party and run our own candidates for office. Surely we have enough savvy individuals in our collective organizations to gain political offices and protect the rights of the people. And why aren't we writing letters to the editors of papers and making phone calls and being as verbal as the civil rights movement was in the 60's? Write letters, email your local politicians VOTE for PROGUN candidates and join organizations devoted to promoting firearms and the 2nd amendment. THIS is how we can win against those who would take away what the constitution guarantees us.
  John

[tombogan03884]

John that is music to my ears, a PRACTICAL idea. Lets thrash this one out. We need talking points ,some kind of coordination, Allies a cool logo , can't do anything without a cool logo or a ribbon, h yeah , some candidates would help. I'm tired worked all night but this idea needs to be kicked around.

[emergncynrs]

Thanks Tom. It's time to get practical. I, like so many of you, belong to USPSA, IDPA and NRA. We have the people, we should have the knowledge and common sense to work this out. WE are not the enemy but it sure looks like our currently elected officials ARE! Maybe others on this forum have ideas on this?

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

Not THAT tired after all Any current politician , has to have already prooven himself before we do business with them, Identify and utilize "Good" journalists, ones not already identified with gun rights are better John Stossel for example. Non stereotyped spokespeople, women , elderly, minorities, Gays, (Pink Pistols can help) vererans from same groups. We need a SHORT statement/ handout that states the case in idiot proof terms.
We can not hope to win anything in this election, it took blacks 100 years, but we can start and we can build momentum. We need finance, We have the Editorial expertise of MB, That and our evil minds can give us a killer propaganda machine. Just because we believe this is right does not mean we can convince enough people, we need to BS the others just like the Commies did with thier "Peace Land  Bread " slogan and the Nazi's "Germany Awake" slogans, We need good publicity. The truth of our reasoning is irrelevant, being right is not enough , We need to convince people and make the undicided ashamed not to agree with us . We need to make it COOL , like global warming. Now I need sleep.

[tombogan03884]

How about Constitution Party ? It's not just the 2A that is under attack , thats just the test bed, mcCain Fiengold was an attack on the first amendment, mandatory drug testing violates the fifth amendment, Now they are tring to pass a union voting law that would undermine the right to a secret ballot by taking it away from Union members. By going to a cashless society they even want to take away your right to use your money as you wish in privacy.
 We , of ALL people need to defend the WHOLE constitution,not just the parts WE like. We need to target the Elitist swine like Bloomberg outlawing trans fat in NY while he munches Cheez-its which are full of ... You geussed it trans fats.
  The reason socialist elitists want to cut smoking, Fatty Foods etc is Not because they give a rats butt about your health, but because if you are sick , or dying then you are not working to make them richer and more powerful.
It's an accepted fact that some one on their death bed does not hold  The Bloombergs et-al in the proper degree of awe and respect.
  If WE don't act now what goes next, right to assemble, or right to petion for redress of greivences ? Maybe The socialist elite will decide that Blacks don't vote right , or women. Maybe they will decide that Illegal searc and seizure isn't THAT bad. It's time to take a stand and a new party is a much better alternitiveto voting for scum or Armed rebellion (which is LEGAL under the 10th amendment to the NH state constitution)

[Hazcat]

MB, Marshal,

Here is another "Deafening Silence"...Outddoor Channel, and other 'sportsman type" channels.

Why not a LIVE broadcast of industry and legal minds picking apart the DC and US briefs?  It would send a VERY loud and visible message.  It would HAVE to be mentioned in the MSM and it would get our displeasure out there.  Or how about running Mr Hardy's' documentary.

On the podcast;

Jim said we are looking short term and we need to look long term.  I respectfully disagree with this statement.  We have been trying to get this before the SC for decades (or longer), and in the mean time trying to stem the tide of 2A infringement.  How much more "long term" can we stand?

As he said we will need to go into "damage control" AGAIN!  We did that and then when we had what we thought we wanted (R pres and congress) then we let them off the hook.  We did not pressure them to correct the mess.  Well NOW is the time to stand up and say NO MORE.

No More voting for the lesser evil, no more blind support, no more being happy with status quo.  NO MORE!

[RVN11B]

 

It is time we go on the offensive against the back stabbers and I mean right damned NOW!

It is beyond the time of gentlemanly discourse and debate.

We put people in office to protect our rights and, yet again, get crap in return.

Needless to say I am PISSED majorly over this and wont go quietly in the night over this.

[emergncynrs]

Hazcat and Tom are both onto something. Campaign our own candidates who will support the entire Constitution but also get this onto open TV. It's past time for being defensive, it is time that we go on the Offense and take the fight to those who would take away our liberties. My father, my grandfather and my great great grandfather did not fight wars and risk their lives so that a bunch of whining puking politicians could feel that  it is  their right to spit on the freedoms guaranteed by the constitution. I did not spend 22 years as a police officer to see the rights of the people to defend themselves against criminals taken away. Hold reporters responsible for what they report, hold politicians responsible for how they vote on issues and we now have to become more active and vocal than at any time in history if we are to keep our rights intact.
John