Negligent Discharge can happen to anybody

[twyacht]

The Good General should be remanded to Range Duty, and re-qualify to the same shooting standards as a new recruit. Instead of KP, perhaps clean a squads rifles.

just sayin;....

[Solus]

As Tom Bogan has said before, we aren't gonna fix that problem at the ballot box.  The ain't gonna start voting to let themselves starve.

Maybe it can be fixed by taking back control of the schools, but that won't be very effective if the home environment isn't changed.

Some tough decisions need to be made and executed....no pun intended....formal execution of the 'followers' won't be necessary once the 'leaders' are removed.  Take away the dole and they will either learn to make it on their own or starve.  Tough to watch, but needs to be done.


I saw a bit on the evening news about a woman who was an illegal alien who had two kids born in the US.  She was discovered when her employer was inspected and she has been deported.  The kids were moaning that there mom, after 17 years in the US, was kicked out and they were without her.  The appeared to be early/mid teens.

I felt sorry for them, and even for their mom.  Sorry for them that their mom's illegal act, perpetuated for 17 years put them in such a situation and sorry for mom for how she will also suffer for her illegal acts.

That doesn't mean I'd change her being deported.  She asked for it when she entered illegally.  As a matter of fact, if I could change anything, I'd change the situation that allows the kids to stay here.  If your birth mother wasn't in country legally when you were born, you are here illegally also.  And you should be sent  home with mom.

An interesting question this gave me.   Why did the kids stay rather then go with the mom they missed so much?  I can only assume they figured they would be better off here without mom than back home with mom.   So they are here by choice, one I would not have allowed them.

[fightingquaker13]

Here's where we part company Solus. I support two amnesty programs. The first being the Dream Act. It basically says that if you came here before age ten and graduate school with a clean record and get a job in public service, or graduate with a college degree or a trade school diploma, you can stay. How do you deport a kid to a country they've never been to when they did nothing wrong? That's just not right. Send the parents back, and no chance to come legally later, but the the kids stay. In your case, I won't mess with 14th amendment, its too important. Those kids you mentioned are as American as we are. Again, bar mom from ever coming back legally, which should make anchor babies less attractive, and less of an anchor. But we don't deport US citizens.
FQ13
PS The second ammnesty program is for those who enlist and serve in the US military on active duty.

[JC5123]

Here's where we part company Solus. I support two amnesty programs. The first being the Dream Act. It basically says that if you came here before age ten and gradate school with a clean record and get a job in public service or graduate with a college degree or a trade scgool diploma, you can stay. How do you deport a kid to a country they've never been to when they did nothing wrong? That's just not right. Send the parents back, and no chance to come legally later, but in the the kids stay. In your case, I won't mess with 14th amendment, its too important. Those kids you mentioned are as American as we are. Again, bar mom from ever coming back legally, which should make anchor babies less attractive, and less of an anchor. But we don't deport US citizens.
FQ13
PS The second ammnesty program is for those who enlist and serve in the US military on active duty.

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You have to be a LEGAL immigrant to enlist. The military doesn't accept felons.

[fightingquaker13]

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You have to be a LEGAL immigrant to enlist. The military doesn't accept felons.

Didn't used to be that way.If you signed up and served, you were in the club once you were honorably discharged. We pursued this aggressively during the Cold War trying to recruit Eastern Europeans and later Asians. Besides, given some of the bad conduct waivers the Army is handing out right now? I'd rather have a Guatemalan yard guy willing to earn his way in than some banger who gets his juvie record ignored.  As far as I'm concerned, if you are willing to go four years active during war time, you are the kind of person I will be proud to call a fellow citizen.
FQ13

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[tombogan03884]

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You have to be a LEGAL immigrant to enlist. The military doesn't accept felons.

Being an illegal alien is only a misdemeanor.

Didn't used to be that way.If you signed up and served, you were in the club once you were honorably discharged. We pursued this aggressively during the Cold War trying to recruit Eastern Europeans and later Asians. Besides, given some of the bad conduct waivers the Army is handing out right now? I'd rather have a Guatemalan yard guy willing to earn his way in than some banger who gets his juvie record ignored.  As far as I'm concerned, if you are willing to go four years active during war time, you are the kind of person I will be proud to call a fellow citizen.
FQ13

True enough but the services started tightening up on that in the last 4 years of Bush. after 9-11 you could get a waiver for pretty much anything except murder.

[Solus]

FQ,  we can work out a compromise on the kids. 

I want to eliminate the attraction of stepping across the line, delivering and holding up a  new US citizen for all to see.

[MikeO]

Me levante mi lámpara al lado de la puerta de oro!

During my 20 yrs of service I saw NDs w M15 (38 revolver), M1911A1, M9, M870 (shotgun), M60, M203 (HE round went through the roof of vehicle, landed on the armory roof, EOD had to go up there and play w it), M16A2 (burst fire into the wing of a fully loaded KC135 tanker aircraft!?), and the best for last, an A10 that blasted a maint van parked in front of it w that 30mm cannon!

[tombogan03884]

Me levante mi lámpara al lado de la puerta de oro!

During my 20 yrs of service I saw NDs w M15 (38 revolver), M1911A1, M9, M870 (shotgun), M60, M203 (HE round went through the roof of vehicle, landed on the armory roof, EOD had to go up there and play w it), M16A2 (burst fire into the wing of a fully loaded KC135 tanker aircraft!?), and the best for last, an A10 that blasted a maint van parked in front of it w that 30mm cannon!

Must have Pictures 

[MikeO]

This was way before my time, but a B47 accidently dropped it's nuke on a house in South Carolina. Only the conventional explosives in the bomb detonated, since it was "unarmed" at the time. The pilot was always kidded about being the only man to ever nuke the USA!