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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2010, 06:16:46 PM »
Good one, I've thought of trying that myself.

I did that myself, but I have the luxury of not having kids at home, so I CAN stay put.
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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2010, 11:42:04 PM »
I did that myself, but I have the luxury of not having kids at home, so I CAN stay put.

Me too. Our youngest is at home, but he is 19 and is as well armed on his end of the house as I am. The shooting lanes extending from our respective bedrooms do not put us into each others line of fire so as long as we stick to the plan and stay put, we should be good to go.

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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2010, 08:44:21 AM »

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Have one of these.  They are made of plastic or a polymer but they are sturdy enough for the job.

It did what it said it would do, but it might not be very practical. 

If the foot of the bed and the side of the bed where it is installed is not facing the door, it will be unwieldy to get into play.  While laying down, you will have to swing the gun across the bed or around the room to find a target.  Not so easy with a fully loaded pump or auto.  You will need to sit up to keep from sweeping your feet.

The pump will only have one shot before you need to get both hands on it and that will take sitting up.   

Sitting up with a ready shotgun in your hand might not be the safest thing you can do either.

If you sit up first and put your legs over the side, the weapon will be blocked by your legs.

It is really only an advantage if the side of the bed with the weapon is pointing at the door and then it would be best if it were a light chopped  double  or auto.
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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2010, 12:43:48 AM »
Have one of these.  They are made of plastic or a polymer but they are sturdy enough for the job.

It did what it said it would do, but it might not be very practical. 

If the foot of the bed and the side of the bed where it is installed is not facing the door, it will be unwieldy to get into play.  While laying down, you will have to swing the gun across the bed or around the room to find a target.  Not so easy with a fully loaded pump or auto.  You will need to sit up to keep from sweeping your feet.

The pump will only have one shot before you need to get both hands on it and that will take sitting up.   

Sitting up with a ready shotgun in your hand might not be the safest thing you can do either.

If you sit up first and put your legs over the side, the weapon will be blocked by your legs.

It is really only an advantage if the side of the bed with the weapon is pointing at the door and then it would be best if it were a light chopped  double  or auto.

Excellent points.
Makes me lean even farther toward what TT was talking about.....been studying on that one a while as a back-up to my bedside table apparatus (aka, Glock 27). If I did the under-the-mattress rack thing, I may consider using my Kel-Tec Sub rifle....since it is a direct companion to my G27. I would think of using frangible ammo also. Seems the Kel-Tec is more compact and with the pistol grip, could be manipulated easier from that particular rig than the shotgun. Don't know, would have to try it out and see.

Another thing I must always consider if something goes bump in the night is a required delay. I can't just jump up and go because I have to take the time to don my prosthetic leg. I keep it next to the bed, staged with a pair of pants (already with belt and holster in them ready to go.
But, since I would make my stand in the bedroom, movement is secondary to having the gun available next to the bed. I want the shotgun staged just in case I do get up and have to move.


Good stuff...triggering much thought here.

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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2010, 12:53:31 AM »
Excellent points.
Makes me lean even farther toward what TT was talking about.....been studying on that one a while as a back-up to my bedside table apparatus (aka, Glock 27). If I did the under-the-mattress rack thing, I may consider using my Kel-Tec Sub rifle....since it is a direct companion to my G27. I would think of using frangible ammo also. Seems the Kel-Tec is more compact and with the pistol grip, could be manipulated easier from that particular rig than the shotgun. Don't know, would have to try it out and see.

Another thing I must always consider if something goes bump in the night is a required delay. I can't just jump up and go because I have to take the time to don my prosthetic leg. I keep it next to the bed, staged with a pair of pants (already with belt and holster in them ready to go.
But, since I would make my stand in the bedroom, movement is secondary to having the gun available next to the bed. I want the shotgun staged just in case I do get up and have to move.


Good stuff...triggering much thought here.


Why move? As you said in another venue, you are an "emplacement guy". That sounds good to me. Roll off the side of the bed, shot gun or glock in hand, call the police and cover the door. Let them take what they want. If they open that door, well, they really shouldn't have. :-\ You have no small kids in the house, you can hole up and let them come to you. I'd rather be ready to go and immobile than take two minutes or better (risking being caught flat footed), to get mobile. Just my .o2.
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Re: Is it safe?
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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2010, 01:02:06 AM »
Why move? As you said in another venue, you are an "emplacement guy". That sounds good to me. Roll off the side of the bed, shot gun or glock in hand, call the police and cover the door. Let them take what they want. If they open that door, well, they really shouldn't have. :-\ You have no small kids in the house, you can hole up and let them come to you. I'd rather be ready to go and immobile than take two minutes or better (risking being caught flat footed), to get mobile. Just my .o2.
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That is why I made this statement near the end:  ;D

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But, since I would make my stand in the bedroom, movement is secondary to having the gun available next to the bed. I want the shotgun staged just in case I do get up and have to move.

 ;D

In all seriousness, you're right FQ. No need to move as stated. And my current plan is basically as you stated. Get the wife, roll off the side and use the bed as concealment and maybe offer an added element of surprise if the boob opens the door.

Two major things would require uprooting, in my way of thinking.
1: House on fire...and that issue is not related to this topic...and
2: My son getting in trouble he can't handle......he is a capable shot, no doubt, but at 19, he could still panic (hell, any of us can panic)....if I thought for a minute he was overcome and in need, as a parent, I have no choice (whether 'tactically' right or wrong) but to go.
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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2010, 02:01:54 AM »
That Kel-tec sub might not have some of the potency of a shotgun, or a .223. I'll bet it's real handy though.

I don't know if that matress carrier would work for this. Maybe I'll just have to put it under my pillow-


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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2010, 08:59:53 AM »
I keep our "house gun" with the mag full and the chamber empty. It only takes a fraction of a second to rack the slide of a pump gun, and as was mentioned there is no other sound that will instill the fear of God into someone who is doing something he shouldn't be doing. I just don't like depending on mechanics for safety. A Glock and a double action revolver are the only 2 exceptions I would make, and they won't fire unless a human deliberately intervenes.  Bill T.

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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2010, 11:53:26 AM »
And my current plan is basically as you stated. Get the wife, roll off the side and use the bed as concealment and maybe offer an added element of surprise if the boob opens the door.


That'd be a neat trick.  I'd like to see that!!   ;D
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Re: Is it safe?
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2010, 11:59:52 AM »
Get the wife, roll off the side and use the bed as concealment and maybe offer an added element of surprise if the boob opens the door.

If your in bed with her to begin with, you already "got her".   ;D     Bill T.

 

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