Guns of Contention: If Philly says no, Florida can say yes

[tombogan03884]

Those Army guy's want to "win hearts and minds".
Marines just figure if you have them by the balls their hearts and minds will take care of them selves.

[usmcdadx2]

FQ...I accept your rational as you stated it but counter with; good Marines and LEO's know that you can't accomplish your mission without the support of the local "good guys" and adhering, and being known for adhering, to your ROE's. The law is the ROE for LEO’s and the Philly thugs are ignoring/breaking the law. I don’t care if the beat cop, or his boss, thinks I’m the biggest POS on earth or doesn’t agree with my personal/political views- If my I’s are dotted and my T’s crossed he needs to stand down and get the hell out of my way. As far as I’m concerned win the hearts and minds of the really good people by coming down hard on the bad. If the local community sides with the bad guys; they aren’t  “good guys”, they’re “lesser bad guys”, collaborators or enablers. I might be a harda** but most of the problems in this country come from 40 odd years of trying to appease this type of person and the pol's who have built a powerbase by doing so. Rant Over!

[Hazcat]

FQ...I accept your rational as you stated it but counter with; good Marines and LEO's know that you can't accomplish your mission without the support of the local "good guys" and adhering, and being known for adhering, to your ROE's. The law is the ROE for LEO’s and the Philly thugs are ignoring/breaking the law. I don’t care if the beat cop, or his boss, thinks I’m the biggest POS on earth or doesn’t agree with my personal/political views- If my I’s are dotted and my T’s crossed he needs to stand down and get the hell out of my way. As far as I’m concerned win the hearts and minds of the really good people by coming down hard on the bad. If the local community sides with the bad guys; they aren’t  “good guys”, they’re “lesser bad guys”, collaborators or enablers. I might be a harda** but most of the problems in this country come from 40 odd years of trying to appease this type of person and the pol's who have built a powerbase by doing so. Rant Over!

+1!