Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Family With An AK-47

[billt]

The gun issue is tricky becuse the 2A is a national right.

So is the right to defend your life. The only problem is the liberal left thinks the person who is willing to do you in has more rights than you do to defend yourself against him. Anywhere liberals exist in any great numbers they cause a danger to the general public in this regard. Homosexuals don't want to kill me.  Bill T.

[Solus]

His only defense is if he can convince the judge/jury that, in his estimation of the situation, the gang was on the verge of advancing on  his house which would have resulted in an imminent threat to himself and family and his killing some in self defense.  He believed that by firing warning shots safely into the ground, it might dissuade the gang from advancing or, at least, delay them until the police could arrive.

[Ichiban]

To quote the article:

Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney.

“What he’s initially charged with – A D felony reckless endangerment — requires a depraved indifference to human life, creating a risk that someone’s going to die. Shooting into a lawn doesn’t create a risk of anybody dying,” Lewis said.


I think the DA is going to have a hard time proving reckless endangerment if it goes to a jury trial.  He should settle for misdemeanor illegal discharge charge and let it go.  But you can bet he wont.

[billt]

This is going to wind up costing this guy thousands of dollars out of his own pocket before this thing gets resolved either way. That is the real crime here. As if the economy isn't bad enough, this guy now has this thing hanging over his head. Bernard Goetz isn't living in Beverly Hills because of what he went through, and he had a lot of financial deals come his way from his incident. No one ever wins except the lawyers when something like this happens. Vincent Bugliosi made a nice living off Manson's prosecution. He's still cashing in from it today. Bill T.

[JC5123]

This is going to wind up costing this guy thousands of dollars out of his own pocket before this thing gets resolved either way. That is the real crime here. As if the economy isn't bad enough, this guy now has this thing hanging over his head. Bernard Goetz isn't living in Beverly Hills because of what he went through, and he had a lot of financial deals come his way from his incident. No one ever wins except the lawyers when something like this happens. Vincent Bugliosi made a nice living off Manson's prosecution. He's still cashing in from it today. Bill T.

And until that is no longer the case, "citizens" will always be the ones who have to defend themselves in court for defending their families at home.

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[ratcatcher55]

What I find interesting is when you compare the laws of different states regarding this sort of thing directly to an incident such as this one, and how the legal dust settles afterward. A good example would be comparing this incident to the Joe Horn incident in Texas where a citizen took matters into his own hands and shot and killed 2 men who were burglarizing his neighbors home, and were absolutely a total zero threat to him personally.

Bill,

Joe Horn witnessed and interrupted a felony. This gentleman did not. He responded to verbal threats by getting a firearm and discharged his weapon. The DA will make the case bringing out the rifle escalated the confrontation. He could have waited inside for the police to arrive with his rifle at the ready.

I'm unsure if NY law even allow the use of deadly force for breaking and entering. I would be surprised if it did.

I feel for the guy. I too would rather keep the fight outside my home if my wife and family was inside.  Here in KY I doubt this would ever get past the grand jury stage if his story is close to being true.

It is also quite possible Mr. Grier is the lhothead and got into it with some local teens, not MS-13 and there were never 20-30 gang members making threats against him. His lawyer is only spinning this to make his client the victim instead of a felony dumbass. For now I’ll give Mr. Grier the benefit of the doubt.

If it was legal to shoot smart mouth punks I would be broke by now. Ammo is so expensive these days.

[tombogan03884]

What is NY STATE (we know the City sux ) Law on "assault" weapons ?

[saltydogbk]

We still have the ban in place.  You can own pre ban guns.  New guns are limited to fixed stock, no bayonet lug, no large capacity mags.  Pre ban mags are okay.  In short...it sucks to be here.

[tombogan03884]

Then he is probably in violation just for owning the AK ?