I have never seen anything as dangerous as USPSA, IPSC, etc.

[tombogan03884]

It's Tyler's Fault !!!    -------->

[Tyler Durden]

No, seriously, I was asking a legitimate question.

What is a tactic?

[tombogan03884]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Tactic

noun
1.
tactics ( def. 1 ) .
2.
a system or a detail of tactics.
3.
a plan, procedure, or expedient for promoting a desired end or result.
–adjective
4.
of or pertaining to arrangement or order; tactical.
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Origin:
1560–70;  NL tacticus  < Gk taktikós  fit for arranging or ordering, equiv. to tak-  (base of tássein  (Attic táttein ) to arrange, put in order) + -tikos -tic

—Related forms
non·tac·tic, noun, adjective

—Can be confused:  stratagem, strategy, tactic (see synonym note at strategy).
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[Tyler Durden]

but seriously Tom,

can somebody here tell me just one tactic to employ in a gunfight?

has anybody here been to one of these high zoot training schools like Gunsite or Thunder Ranch where they at least teach people how to shoot, and I guess some super secret squirrel tactic or tactics?

 

[Timothy]

The only tactic that counts is the "don't get dead" kind!

However that particular one is achieved is fine by this old fart.....

"a plan, procedure, or expedient for promoting a desired end or result."

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[Tyler Durden]

well....give me a "for example" then....or a hypothetical....

wasn't anybody taught anything at one of these schools?

 

[Timothy]

My daddy and Uncle Sam taught me.....

when someone points a gun in your direction, shoot 'em or run like hell!

'nuf said...

[Tyler Durden]

Hmmn...okay....you can see where I am going with this, right?

If all the High Speed Low Drag and Cop types are saying "IDPA/USPSA will get you killed!"  (OH!  NOESSS!!!  )

Then I would like for at least one of them to tell me one tactic that they use that theoretically saves their life or the lives of others.

As was mentioned earlier about the whole sticking a gun through a "window" thing.... That's not a window, it's called a "port".  And one of the reasons that you DO stick the gun all the way through the port is so the slide or the gun doesn't get caught on the frame and cause a malfunction.

If you only committ halfway, that slide cycling back and forth getting hung up on the frame can knock at least the front sight off.
And a jam too.   

So for the experienced USPSA'ers and IDPA'ers, they know to keep their muzzles to the inside the house part of the port.

Unless the course of fire or stage is set up where the targets are at your feet, basically, like this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4724886211339722596#



From a legal Monday morning quarterback situation, in my opinion, it would look really, really bad to be inside a house and shoot somebody through a window who was out in the yard. 

[tombogan03884]

I may not fully understand where you are going with this, but I'll try for a serious answer.
All situations differ therefore require different tactics, but for one all purpose tactic, WIN.
An all purpose strategy involving 3 separate tactics would be to , Be firstest, be fastest, be foulest.
Recognize the approaching threat,
React to the threat faster than it can act,
respond with overwhelming force.

Hope that goes toward answering your question.

[Timothy]

I may not fully understand where you are going with this, but I'll try for a serious answer.
All situations differ therefore require different tactics, but for one all purpose tactic, WIN.
An all purpose strategy involving 3 separate tactics would be to , Be firstest, be fastest, be foulest.
Recognize the approaching threat,
React to the threat faster than it can act,
respond with overwhelming force.

Hope that goes toward answering your question.

Isn't that what I said?
 

From a legal Monday morning quarterback situation, in my opinion, it would look really, really bad to be inside a house and shoot somebody through a window who was out in the yard. 

Where I live, shooting someone in your front yard, regardless of the circumstances is MURDER so good point Tyler!

Forgive me but I don't buy into a lot of the "training" that's peddled in the firearms industry.  I shoot, I train, I don't plan on dieing anytime soon.  Situations change in the blink of an eye and we need to adapt accordingly.