School board meeting shooting - FL

[TAB]

Ted is not a good example.


look into his past, there are some not pretty things.

also, he had a buddy swear him in has a LEO so he could legally carry in all 50 states.  The guy needs to stick to rock and roll. 

[brosometal]

After reading your post before this last one, I think I better understand your position.

Regardless of your feelings on Uncle Ted, I believe the video posted by m58 speaks more to the soul of the issue in which I concur wholeheartedly.

[TAB]

After reading your post before this last one, I think I better understand your position.

Regardless of your feelings on Uncle Ted, I believe the video posted by m58 speaks more to the soul of the issue in which I concur wholeheartedly.

I'm not disagreeing with you on the message, its just anything that comes out of teds mouth that is not rock and roll is toxic.

Like I said, dig into his past, but be warned you might not like what you find. 

[tt11758]

I find Uncle Ted's logic tough to argue with.

[tt11758]

I'm not disagreeing with you on the message, its just anything that comes out of teds mouth that is not rock and roll is toxic.

Like I said, dig into his past, but be warned you might not like what you find. 

According to you, dig into ANYBODY's past and you might not like what you find.  I refer to your assertion that everyone (assumingly including yourself) is a felon.

The more I read the more I echo m58's question.

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[twyacht]

"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic."
Ted Nugent

Disagree TAB?

[Solus]

There has to be a difference in the requirements set by what ever authority for different occupations/functions.

A security guard is hired, as is a contractor, to perform certain duties and to be aware of certain rules and regulations.  Since they will be charging for their services, additional requirements are placed upon them to try to insure the customer can expect a reasonable product.

Additionally, the skill set and knowledge required for each of these is different.  It would be foolish to require contractors to have any range time for their certificate and just as foolish to require a security guard to be aware of building code.  The classroom time for each would depend upon the amount of information each needed to learn.

A CCW  holder is not offering a service so there is no need to guarantee a customer reasonable service.  Becoming knowledgeable of  the functioning of firearms, safety procedures and the legal and moral aspects of self defense in the jurisdiction issuing the permit are all that is required.  This minimal training might not be sufficient to insure the ability to defend oneself, but that is not the government's concern.

Further, the requirements to become a surgeon would be greater and stricter than all of the above and you won't find any guidelines on proper electrical wiring and the safe loading/unloading of revolvers vs semi-auto pistols contained in the requirements.

This is how it should be.

And disagree with TAB's views as I might and often heatedly, he still has a ton of knowledge, offers help when ever he can and can always be used as a bad example.      He is stubborn as a mule and I think he has inhaled to much varnish over the years, but he has a place here.

[fightingquaker13]

On a lighter note, the woman with the purse has it for sale on e-bay to raise money for the security guard's charity ( a school sports program if I recall). The high bid stands at about $1200. If any of you haven't bought the GF a Christmas gift yet, here's your chance (though I'd reccomend adding either a couple of bricks or a Glock to accessorize with).
FQ13 who thinks there was one hero there, though she could have thought things through a bit better.

PS local news has been all over this. The guard was upstairs in his office. It took him a few minutes to get downstairs and assess the situation. He figured out what was going on before just busting in. That seems reasonable. It also points to the need for CCW. Even IF a cop is in the building, he can't teleport. It takes him a while to get there. Once he does, he's going to figure out what's going on before kicking down the door. Response time is minutes even in an ideal world. You may only have seconds.

[Timothy]

Ted is not a good example.


look into his past, there are some not pretty things.

also, he had a buddy swear him in has a LEO so he could legally carry in all 50 states.  The guy needs to stick to rock and roll. 

TAB,

Site your sources please.  If they're a straight take on the "Wikipedia" page than I'll have to say BS.  His womanizing is well documented and not a matter of concern for me personally.  If you can't make a cogent argument to substantiate your position, then we'll just ignore your opinion.

[kmitch200]

TAB,
Site your sources please.  If they're a straight take on the "Wikipedia" page than I'll have to say BS.  His womanizing is well documented and not a matter of concern for me personally.  If you can't make a cogent argument to substantiate your position, then we'll just ignore your opinion.

Even reading the Wiki page on TN, I can't find anything that I regard as "toxic".
Yeah, he chased skirts.  So what?  What did any of us do when were young and dumb and full of  -  spirit.

I have to say that I readily identify with Ted Nugent when it comes to SD and the right to own and carry. I prefer the libertarian view on such things, it's none of the governments business.  He's not saying anything that hasn't already been said by the founders of our country. You are responsible for your own safety and the safety of your family. As true today as it was in the dawn of time.

While I may not call Heidi Prescott of the Fund for Animals a "worthless whore" and a "shallow slut," it could just be because I haven't met her yet.