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The world's largest army? America's hunters
« on: December 20, 2010, 07:53:36 PM »
Received this in an email so I don't know how accurate it is, but I like the thought anyway.


I don't spend my fall weekends tramping around the woods in pursuit of a buck, but a lot of my friends and neighbors do.
This blogger adds up all the hunters in just a handful of states, and comes to a striking conclusion:
The state of Wisconsin has gone an entire deer hunting season without someone getting killed. That's great. There were over 600,000 hunters.
Allow me to restate that number. Over the last two months, the eighth largest army in the world - more men under arms than Iran ; more than France and Germany combined - deployed to the woods of a single American state to help keep the deer menace at bay.
But that pales in comparison to the 750,000 who are in the woods of Pennsylvania this week. Michigan 's 700,000 hunters have now returned home. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia , and it is literally the case that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world.
His point? America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower.
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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 07:56:47 PM »
It is said that's the reason the Japanese didn't invade during WWII
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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 08:24:26 PM »
His point? America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower.

Admiral Yamamoto said "there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" if Japan tried to invade the continental US.

Now if we can just keep our own freaking politicians in check....
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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 08:53:30 PM »
Both cookie and kmitch nailed it.

To this day, even our gov't knows foreign invasion won't happen, for this very reason. However, our gov't has forgotten why there is so many of us.

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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 05:50:49 AM »
Admiral Yamamoto said "there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" if Japan tried to invade the continental US.

Now if we can just keep our own freaking politicians in check....

Yamamoto reportedly made that statement many years after the war in a conference of WW II Vets, US and Japanese when asked why Japan did not invade the west coast of the US, knowing as they did, that there could be no naval defense and that our ground forces were not prepared for war, particularly an invasion.

The rest of his answer was that  "We were to smart to step into that quicksand"
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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 07:36:37 AM »
It is said that's the reason the Japanese didn't invade during WWII

much as I wish that were true it just aint.  The real reason there is no way in hell logistically the Japs could hope to succeed in that.  Too much ocean , too much 'stuff' in the US.

Besides according to ARFCOM the hunters are 'just a bunch of Fudds' anywayz

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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 08:20:59 AM »
Solus, Just to set the record straight, Yamamoto was shot down by Army Air Force P 38 Lightnings when he left his base in Rabaul.  I believe it was in '43.  You are correct about this quote however.
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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 08:22:17 AM »
I'm going to be a pessimist here.  NOTE:  I am making broad generalizations below and I'm sure you'll have plenty of individual data points that refute this but I will posit that I'm correct in the broad sense.

If we had a "Red Dawn" event tomorrow, I don't think you could count on even a very small percentage of people to take up arms.  That is a pipe dream.

I grew up a hunter and have been to many deer camps and pheasant hunts through my life.  A very large percentage of hunters are not into self defense, independence as we see on forums like this.  They really know very little about guns, only view them as a tool, know nothing of tactics.  They have fieldcraft skills but this doesn't make them a FIGHTER.  That is mindset and to confuse the two is a big mistake.

+ A disgustingly small percentage of people actually take the time to vote
+ Getting people to call their congresscritters against a bill is like pulling teeth
+ How many people join the NRA...yes we have 4M members but that is ridiculously low
+ Try to get someone to volunteer to do something at church, Cub Scouts, school...almost impossible.  They'd rather be home being sedated by watching "Dancing with the Stars" or reading People magazine.   Tripe.

Do we have the potential of a large armed force?  Yes.  Are hunters more likely than the average Berkely hippie to take up arms?  Yes.  But that is a far cry from a trained, motivated force to resist tyranny.  

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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 08:27:12 AM »
much as I wish that were true it just aint.  The real reason there is no way in hell logistically the Japs could hope to succeed in that.  Too much ocean , too much 'stuff' in the US.

Besides according to ARCOM the hunters are 'just a bunch of Fudds' anywayz

 :P



Interesting thought since they tend to specifically seek out these "Fudds" when looking for men to put through sniper school. I guess being a skilled woodsman and shooter only count when it benefits them?

Of course you are talking about a government agency.... ::)
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Re: The world's largest army? America's hunters
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 08:32:35 AM »
I agree with what you say KPR, but that is why it is up to people like us to be force multipliers. Most people are lazy sheep. But given the proper scare, and the right leadership, you could accomplish a lot with them. Just remember, all sheeple are useful in one way or another. Even if it is for cannon fodder.
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