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fightingquaker13

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Re: Failure!
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 11:03:05 AM »
SEE!!! I've been trying to convince my wife for years that my paranoia is healthy!  :)
In Ulmus' case it might be. The guy does sound like the poster boy for "disgruntled worker shoots 6, self". I'm with Haz Ulmus. Carry to work, rules be damned. I might even be motivated to buy for the occasion. Something like a Kel-tec .32 that I slip in a front pocket and nobody will ever notice. :-\
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Re: Failure!
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 11:58:19 AM »
FQ is right, even on choice of caliber since .380 was so hard to find for a while.
The fact that that is exactly what I do has nothing to do with it  ;D

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Re: Failure!
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2010, 09:26:11 PM »
Thanks again.  It's crazy.  Yes, he still has a job!  He came in the next day, barking orders, and "punnishing me" by having me clean the bathroom.  The manager wasn't going to be in for another half hour at the earliest, so I didn't say anything but ok just to make sure he didn't take it out on the rest of the crew.

The manager did talk to him (Read him the riot act) at the office for over an hour.  He also told the supervisor that he and I have to talk this over and fix it.  (Shouldn't the fixing be the supervisor escorted off the property since he quit the day earlier?)  The supe said he did want to alk about it, but wanted to wait until tuesday so he could settle down and talk calmly because if he tried that day, he would fly into a rage again.  So he left after that meeting (and giving me a creepy smile) and won't be back until tuesday.  The fact that he has to wait a whole week to simmer down is disturbing.  I do not trust this guy one bit.  And I am very angry that the manager is giving him one more chance to lose control at work.

The one thing that is working for me is that his cousin (a co-worker and ex-cop) told me that he is so scared for his job he thinks he'll lose it even if I hit him and he does nothing.

So I will do it.  I will talk to him and watch every single movement and make sure that it doesn't escalate and then I am going to take the entire week off from that point.  I don't trust him.  I don't like the fact he got his job back.  and I am very angry that I am using the vacation time that I had set aside to take my dad to Sebring and use it to get away from there.

The manager and the guy that witnessed it both say I did nothing wrong and yet I'm the one getting crapped on for it.

I know the economy is lousy right now and that it will be almost impossible to find a job, but I am now looking.

PS:  My wife owns a P3AT with two mags and I did by her 25 rounds of Hornady Taps defensive rounds.

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Re: Failure!
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2010, 09:39:23 PM »
That P3AT needs to be in an easily accessible pocket.

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Re: Failure!
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2010, 09:53:06 PM »
Ulmus I will give you three contradictory pieces of advice , but hey, I'm an academic, its what I get paid for. ;D
Seriously, the first piece of advice is to chill and not read too much into it. This might be a nothing and you wil have forgotten about it next month.

The second piece of advice, and unfortunately the more serious one, is to document every interaction you have had with this guy and the manager since the incident you described. Your post is an example of a contemperaneous record. Record times, dates and contents of meetings. Things llike petty retribution as in cleaning the bathroom. The fact you feel threatened and need to take leave. Tell a friend and a (trusted) co-worker this. If shit gets ugly, it will help you if you need to hire a lawyer if your work situation goes south.  You shouldn't need to be looking for a new job. A good record should convince the boss of that.

Finally, there is the third piece of advice. If you honestly feel threatened, quit. Do it tommorrow. Screw the job. Its not worth getting shot over. I refer to suggestion number one, not blowing it out of proportion or letting us wind you up, but if you really feel this guy is a threat? Just walk away. Call a lawyer with what you've told us and you can probably score a severance package and a nice letter if what you've said is true. Seriously, evaluate the situation, talk it over with your wife, maybe call a lawyer and pay for an hour of his time and make the call. Going to work looking over your shoulder? Not ideal. :-\
FQ13 who has no real wisdom. I'm pulling all of this out of my ass (except the lawyer bit) but sometimes it helps to think out loud and we are always here to listen.

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Re: Failure!
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Re: Failure!
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2010, 06:45:30 AM »
Stop kicking yourself over this.

This man is supposed to be a supervisor you said...? 
I assume he is at least of Adult age...?
And of Normal intelligence...?

Then the only one who is responsible for his actions is him.   
I have been working the same job for two years without a raise and I haven't thrown a tantrum like a two year old, quit my job and run my rental car into a ditch.

So maybe he has had a bad day...but if he is allowing a bad day to turn into a bad week/month etc....then he is obviously not happy with his current employement and should be seeking a job elsewhere.  And good luck to him with the current job market.

As I said...don't beat yourself up over the actions of this guy.
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Re: Failure!
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2010, 03:44:39 PM »
You guys are absolutely right!

This is his fault and I need to relax and ignore it for a bit then come back level headed.

I've heard about "making book" and will start doing that now.

And P3 is where it needs to be. ;)

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Re: Failure!
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2010, 09:28:02 AM »
Sounds like the supervisor needs to attend "Anger Management Training". For it to take him a week to get over an incident tells me that he is in the wrong position. If it were my company I would want a supervisor that could think with a level head under pressure.
You should definitely watch your back and I would document the whole scenario and any additional confrontations. I take it that the manager is regarding the possibility of you working in a "hostile environment"?
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