Author Topic: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?  (Read 6032 times)

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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2010, 03:37:47 PM »
I like Barbour but he has too much baggage.  Too much ammo for the MSM.
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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2010, 03:46:23 PM »
The truth is Obama wasn't born anywhere. He was hatched out of a pod.
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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2010, 04:47:23 PM »
Honestly, I would not releae it, just to piss some people off.
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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2010, 07:07:17 PM »
Anyone find it ironic that the asshat asking the question is Chris Mathews (D)...former BHO toilet paper substitute?
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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2010, 07:11:03 PM »
Anyone find it ironic that the asshat asking the question is Chris Mathews (D)...former BHO toilet paper substitute?
i think he got the feeling back in that "tingling" leg. :-\
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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2010, 07:40:30 PM »
Actually, its really not cut and dried. The Constitution specifies a "natural born citizen". Does that mean born in the US? If so, McCain wouldn't have qualified as he was born in Panama. It was at a US base and under our soveriegnty, but still  foriegn soil.  Obama? Let's assume Kenya or Indonesia. His mother was a US citizen. To DQ him the court would have to rule that if an American woman gives birth overseas her child is not a citizen. That is absurd on its face. Our law has always encompassed both jus sanguinis AND jus soli. You are a citizen if your mother is American or if you were born on US soil. It can be argued that the framers intended this. There are counter arguments as 18th and 19th century law said that a woman't citizenship followed that of her husband, but expat childen were still citizens. The necessities of early travel mandated this. And the idea that you surrender citizenship by marrying a foriegn national has been repudiated. So, its not a silver bullet to get rid of the guy.
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Even for a College Prof, you are ill informed. Both McCain's parents were US citizens, He would qualify as a "Natural born citizen if he were born in the Russian sector of the Moon. The fact that he was born in a US Navy hospital on what, until carter, was US soil only reinforces the legitimacy of that due to accurate record keeping. Only an idiot would even raise the question.
Another statement of your ignorance is "To DQ him the court would have to rule that if an American woman gives birth overseas her child is not a citizen. The fact is that for a period of time, ( I am not sure of the years ) if an American woman married a non citizen she did indeed lose her citizenship. This issue was discussed ad nauseum in another thread.
The remaining questions about Obummers birth have nothing to do with citizenship except in the minds of the ignorant and the tin foil set. His mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth where ever that vent occurred, there is no record of him (He would have to do it in writing to the proper section of the State dept. ) renouncing his citizenship, therefore the citizenship of Barry Obama is not open to question.
What is open to question are two items, Was Barry Obama Sr. the listed Father,or was it the child molesting black poet "Frank" from the CPUSA ? Is this person in the Whitehouse actually the son of Ann Dunham, or just some one who found the name useful ?
How does a dope smoking, B-Ball playing mediocre student suddenly wind up at Harvard ? How does a kid raised by a hardware store proprietor afford Harvard, or finance an illegal trip to Pakistan ?
Another thing, it is not just a matter of his birth certificate, why are all his personal records kept secret ? Did he lie on Financial aid forms ? Or was his education financed through bank accounts connected to the CPUSA ? Did he really serve as the only unpublished editor of the Harvard Law Review ? Or is this another exaggeration, like his being a "Constitutional law professor" ? Or were his published works so egregiously racist or communist as to possibly disqualify him from holding office ? What was his actual relationship with the terrorist Bill Ayer's and his convicted bomber wife ? He claims they were neighbors, who happened to work in the same building, yet their business phone numbers were the same extension, and he launched his Senate campaign in their living room.
And you have the nerve to parrot the communists attacks on Palin's qualifications ? You are exactly the sort of dumb ass they counted on to get this POS elected.

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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2010, 04:30:30 AM »
And here we agree. One term and gone. Assuming the GOP can field a good candidate, he can pound nails with Carter.
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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2010, 09:17:32 AM »
Pres. BHO's citizenship is a serious matter - Was he born in Hawaii to a U.S. citizen which would have given him legal status; was he born in Africa; did he or his parents for him renounce his citizenship for some reason?  It is way too easy to prove if BHO or his cronies wished, but for some reason they don't want to!

Do they not lay out the facts because they can't, or is it because they love making us look like raving idiots?

In the big picture it doesn't matter why they don't want to make this go away.  We are playing into their hand by hanging on to it!  We need to look at what they are able to do while we distract ourselves with an issue that they can use to paint us like lunatics in the MSM.  This is no different than The Three Stooges jokes where Moe says look at that, and then he kicks Larry in the nuts.

Yes, I do believe that it is more than a little important that we pay attention to our Constitution, but we are loosing more by focusing on this.  This bag of jello (skin wrapped around a bunch of stuff that contains no spine or other structure and easily pushed and formed by the shifting forces of those around him) is going to be in office for two more years, and we need to work at ways to hold him in check until he can be defeated in 2012 and replaced in January 2013.  I we don't  shift our energies he will win today and in 2012!
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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2010, 12:19:13 PM »
Going to post my reply with in your post

Pres. BHO's citizenship is a serious matter - Was he born in Hawaii to a U.S. citizen which would have given him legal status; As long as his Mother was a US Citizen, except for a period around the turn of the century, it does not matter where he was whelped, he automatically becomes a US Citizen was he born in Africa; did he or his parents for him renounce his citizenship for some reason? He would have had to do that in person and in writing before a particular office in a US Embassy or Consulate and there would be a public record of it. None exists , so no, his citizenship was never renounced. It is way too easy to prove if BHO or his cronies wished, but for some reason they don't want to!

Do they not lay out the facts because they can't, or is it because they love making us look like raving idiots?

In the big picture it doesn't matter why they don't want to make this go away.  We are playing into their hand by hanging on to it!  We need to look at what they are able to do while we distract ourselves with an issue that they can use to paint us like lunatics in the MSM.  This is no different than The Three Stooges jokes where Moe says look at that, and then he kicks Larry in the nuts.
More than likely, IMO, there is something about his, or his mother's relationship with Frank Davis Marshall (I often confuse the middle and last names   :-\  ) that would indicate some direct connection to the Communist party, Such  connection would have turned off to many voters for him to get elected.
Yes, I do believe that it is more than a little important that we pay attention to our Constitution, but we are loosing more by focusing on this.  This bag of jello (skin wrapped around a bunch of stuff that contains no spine or other structure and easily pushed and formed by the shifting forces of those around him) is going to be in office for two more years, and we need to work at ways to hold him in check until he can be defeated in 2012 and replaced in January 2013.  I we don't  shift our energies he will win today and in 2012!

The odds of me taking up permanent residence on the moon are greater than the odds of the GOP not screwing this up and handing Obama another term.  

I agree, with a Republican dominated Congress, Obummer will be prevented from doing much else to PO the voters over the next 2 years. The nearly nonexistent memory span of the average voter will almost guarantee his re-election in 2012.

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Re: Chris Matthews: Why Doesn't Obama Just Release The Birth Certificate?
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2010, 12:42:50 PM »
Going to post my reply with in your post

I agree, with a Republican dominated Congress, Obummer will be prevented from doing much else to PO the voters over the next 2 years. The nearly nonexistent memory span of the average voter will almost guarantee his re-election in 2012.

I'd rather see the Gov. deadlocked for the next six years than have it be productive in the manner it his been in the past...especially the past 2 years.
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