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Re: Ruger .308 Scout Rifle Released!
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2011, 12:01:08 PM »
Right before posting my last response, I was looking for alternatives to the expensive and foreign made Accuracy International magazines. Looks like C Products makes a blackened stainless steel magazine that is interchangeable with an AI unit. Price is $58 either from the manufacturer or MidwayUSA. Considering my experience with C Products' AR mags, I'd wager these will be excellent quality. And for significantly less than AI.

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Re: Ruger .308 Scout Rifle Released!
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2011, 12:03:49 PM »
There are 5 round magazines on the Ruger site for this rifle.

Confirmed: http://shopruger.com/Bolt-Action-Magazines/products/559/

For $69 you get a 5 round magazine. That's pricey but they come from a manufacturer (AI) that produces great stuff too.

Now flushing the "it ain't a good hunting rifle" argument down the toilet right now....  ;D

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Re: Ruger .308 Scout Rifle Released!
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2011, 01:22:28 PM »
Hi guys...finally back at my main computer n stead of the iPad...this is a FASCINATING thread, and as my friend Andy Langlois emailed to me, it has been a long time since a rifle — especially a bolt-action rifle — has elicited such excitement.

I suspect the Scout will replace my FAL as the heavy caliber always available (HCA2) rifle in Chez Bunker, especially if my Sweetie agrees to go through the course Ed Head and I are putting together and can "double" on the rifle. The function of the HCA2 rifle is to, if necessary, allow me to push the fight — regardless of what that fight is — away from my front door. Assume my partner in the fight will have an AR. Yes, that is a lot of firepower. Yes, I will likely never need it. Yes, if I ever do need it, I will need it really really badly! BTW, local law enforcement is aware of my basic planning, and they heartily agree with it. In fact, the strategy was suggested by law enforcement.

What might that fight be? Beats me...I suspect that 2 dozen MS-13 gang members on my lawn, as happened last year in New York state, would be enough to trigger the maximum strategy as a precaution. I don't see this as all that much different than carrying a concealed handgun...I don't expect to need it daily (although I have needed it in the past); I have arranged my life to avoid intersecting with the criminal element of society, as I have chosen to live well outside of a major urban area. But if I do need it, it is not at home in safe. As I'e always said, you pays your money and you takes your chances.

An interesting note...people on the Internet (not just here) seem to have a lot more faith in AR-10s than I do. The only New-Gen (e.g. current development) semiauto MBR I would unconditionally recommend is the civilian SCAR Heavy, the 17S. Best shooting 7.62 carbine I've ever shot! Most expensive 7.62 carbine I've ever shot!

I spent some time with one of the Special Forces guys who had been wringing out the whole family of AR-10 style 7.62s, and his team found all of them wanting. Ditto for the eclectic, but exhaustive, "Boston T. Party" Gun Bible tests of several years back. If you have one that is 100%, cherish it. Especially cherish functional magazines! I've heard more good than bad about the Remington R-25 evolution of the DPMS platform, but I haven't yet seen it "wrung out" and I don't have any personal experience with it.

Old Skol battle rifles — Garand, M1A, FAL, etc — are what they are. Interestingly enough, I know a lot of self-defense trainer type guys who keep a Garand in the closet for as one told me, "the last fall-back." Pretty much what I'm talking about for a HCA2 strategy.

I would also recommend the FNAR as a HCA2...I've shot the gun in both prototype and production versions, and it shoots as well as any semiauto 7.62 around. Super accurate, not surprising since it's a militarized BAR hunting rifle. It has the issue of being heavy (8-plus pounds) and features true proprietary magazines (nobdoy to my knowledge makes them but FNH). Going to be a little pricier (street prices from $1300-1500), but in its 16-inch configuration I would rate it as excellent in the "sport/utility" role. I told FNH that I'd like to see it with a scout scope mount option, but no dice on that one. I get the sense that the FNAR hasn't been a huge success for FNH, which is a shame. If you buy into the concept of a sport-ute, but you want a semi, at least look at the FNAR [and, for the record, Ruger is a sponsor and FNH isn't...does that make me even?]

In a civilian context, I like the bolt gun for the same reason I like the lever action carbine as a go-to rifle...if I end up in court for, say, whacking one of our problem lions in my back yard (the most likely use of such a gun given our little "lion problem"), I'd rather my defense attorney hold up a (boring) bolt-action or a (boring) lever gun than a (scary) faux-battle rifle. Where I live, truck guns — usually lever guns, interestingly enough, but a lot of bolts and the occasional Mini-14 — are common as dirt. People see them a lot, which is good.

More thoughts later...

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Re: Ruger .308 Scout Rifle Released!
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2011, 02:44:26 PM »
I like it, there's got to be some way to get a little weight off it to allow for a 'scope & keep it under 7lbs. I do have reservation about shooting a 16" .308Win. with a muzzle brake however, especially when hunting and ear protection isn't practical. So come on BATF let us buy a can 'off ticket' that reduces any gun to under 90db or so? ........just for starters?
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Re: Ruger .308 Scout Rifle Released!
« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2011, 04:36:21 PM »
Then of course there's this:

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

if they'd only make a longer mag  :P. Then shorten the barrel a bit it'd come in at about 6.5lbs
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« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2011, 04:48:47 PM »
*clearing my throat**  well~~ I can say that I am privileged to be a proud owner of one of these sweet bad boys..  ;D Yes.. you heard right.. Little ole' me.. And what a surprise!!
I didn't even have a clue that my wonderful husband had bought me this..
 Marshal brought it in... set the box down.. went to the bathroom and in that length of time I had opened the box.. saw what it was... grabbed it up.. pulled it up to my shoulder with my eye  on those sweet sights and it was love at "first fondling".. LOL
I was squealing and just going crazy over it.
He came out of the bathroom... and I threw my arms around his neck telling him he was the most wonderful husband in the world.. That I LOVED this gun and what a wonderful surprise it was..and thank you SO MUCH for getting it for me.   :-*

I know he was taken aback by my excitement.. because he had that deer in the headlight look...he was trying to talk.. but only sputtered and stammered something to the effect of  .. ""uhhhh... I  actually... well, I really thought that I would... uhhhhmmm  Actually it wasn't........I mean.. what I'm trying to say is.................... sure honey.. I'm so glad that it fits you so well.. "

He was so emotional over it all that tears welded up in his eyes..as he gently reached out an uncertain hand and gently almost lovingly stroked my new gun. The raw emotion was touching.. almost like he lost his best freind.. I don't know why that look...because he pulled the surprise off perfectly!  It was a wonderful successful surprise!  ;D
 
 I have a lot of guns.. Yes.. we have AR's too.. BUT.. never have I pulled up a gun and had it fit me so perfect.
I'm not kidding you an ounce either..This thing is like it was custom made for me.  
 The sights are awesome.. right dead on in the middle of that triple fork.. and it is smooth to handle.. and lordy lordy lordy.. I'm in luuuuuve..... haha

(I'm not real crazy about the safety on it.. its smooth and natural to click back on after you shoot it.. but the taking it off is a bit awkward.. )
This gun is just so sweeeeet though!!!

**Poor Marshal... He just looks at it all sad like..sometimes going over and picking it up and sighing real heavy...Bless his little heart .. He even ask me if maybe he could clean it for me.. Now isn't that just the nicest?
But why is he trying not to cry everytime he picks it up.... ???
The emotional aspect of giving it to me just filled his heart up with love I guess.... :)**
So.... I would say to you if you get a chance to pick one of these up.. I don't think you will ever regret it..

((Just don't get one and go to the bathroom.. unless you take it with you)) ;) ;D
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« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2011, 04:56:56 PM »
Marshall give 1 away buy 2 new what a deal. 10/4

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« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2011, 07:26:16 PM »
M'lette, I think I speak for every board member when I say that if you EVER enter my home, you will keep both hands in your front pockets at all times. I'll serve your beer with a straw. ;D
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« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2011, 07:42:46 PM »
Thanks MB and Marshall'ette. It comes down to personal preference. For those on the move, camping, hiking, hunting, in a terrain and environment that warrants a thumping bolt action,...this is a valid consideration.
 
Period.

For those that this rifle doesn't blow the wind up your shorts, there are plenty of other viable options. God forbid, we ever have to use any rifle on two legged varmints, in open country, but in court, in today's day and age, a bolt action looks a whole lot better than an "evil" self loading AR...(of which I am a huge fan)...

Plus it will damn sure put meat on the grill.

Congratulations Marshal'ette. Give a big wet one to Marshall.... Look forward to a shake down range report.

Thanks again MB for your insight. It's not on my table right now, I have others that fit the bill, but it is exactly what it is.





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Re: Ruger .308 Scout Rifle Released!
« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2011, 09:04:20 PM »

Thanks MB and Marshall'ette. It comes down to personal preference. For those on the move, camping, hiking, hunting, in a terrain and environment that warrants a thumping bolt action,...this is a valid consideration.
 
Period.

For those that this rifle doesn't blow the wind up your shorts, there are plenty of other viable options. God forbid, we ever have to use any rifle on two legged varmints, in open country, but in court, in today's day and age, a bolt action looks a whole lot better than an "evil" self loading AR...(of which I am a huge fan)...

Plus it will damn sure put meat on the grill.

Congratulations Marshal'ette. Give a big wet one to Marshall.... Look forward to a shake down range report.

Thanks again MB for your insight. It's not on my table right now, I have others that fit the bill, but it is exactly what it is.







Hey~~~ anything that blows wind up my shorts ..I think I'll like.. I mean.. I think I'll REALLY like it..  ;D  you know... I mean.. I 'm just saying............ ;)  
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