Egypt and gun control

[Jkwas]

Well, it looks like now Egypt is in chaos the mainstream media has forgotten about gun control for the time being.   Thank goodness our tv news has ADHD and tunnel vision        NEXT!

[CJS3]

You can bet that the ATF hasn't forgotten

[tombogan03884]

Obummer is telling Mubarak that he has to give in to the Muslim BrotherHood, those bastards have been causing trouble and committing terrorism  (mostly against other muslims and Arabs, ) since the late 20's or early 30's.
And now there are protests in Jordan. ( Funny thing, the Muslim brotherhood has hated the Royal family there since it was Palastine, they killed the first king in front of his son, the Father of the present king. )

[fightingquaker13]

They may be bastards, but they are our bastards. Problem is, its Iran redux. You support a secular tyrant, and the religious opposition becomes the only game in town. I'd doubt two in ten of the protestors want Sharia, but its what they'll get. Its like Central America in the '80s. We supported right wing despots. The commies were the only alternative in places like Nicargua and El Salvador. We are stuck defendig A-holes because the other guys are worse. It doesn't make me lose sleep, but its a hard sell diplomatically.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

They may be bastards, but they are our bastards. Problem is, its Iran redux. You support a secular tyrant, and the religious opposition becomes the only game in town. I'd doubt two in ten of the protestors want Sharia, but its what they'll get. Its like Central America in the '80s. We supported right wing despots. The commies were the only alternative in places like Nicargua and El Salvador. We are stuck defendig A-holes because the other guys are worse. It doesn't make me lose sleep, but its a hard sell diplomatically.
FQ13

They are not, and never have been our bastards. We supported the people they were trying to kill, Abdullah I and II, Israel, and Sadat.
These are also the people who were killing tourists in Egypt.  

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[fightingquaker13]

They are not, and never have been our bastards. We supported the people they were trying to kill, Abdullah I and II, Israel, and Sadat.
These are also the people who were killing tourists in Egypt.  

I was refering to the current governments as "our bastards", same with Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE.
FQ13

[MikeBjerum]

Has anyone seen Robert Duval lately?



I think he might have run off and become President of Egypt  

Between work and family stuff I have been out of touch for a few days.  Color me embarrassed the other evening when someone brought up Egypt, and I had no idea what they were talking about.  I had seen some riots on the tv's as we were waiting at bars for our table a couple times, but having never been able to read the roll or hear the sound I was out of touch.  Time to catch up on the world!

[tombogan03884]

I was refering to the current governments as "our bastards", same with Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE.
FQ13

Oh.    
In that case I have to agree with your point that we support "our bastards" because they are better than the other bastards.
But if you want an example of what happens when we don't pick a bastard to support just look at Somalia, or Rwanda.
This was one of the benefits of the "Cold War".  Every place in the world was of interest to one side or the other, therefore they attracted attention from both sides trying to counter each others influence. The cash paid to separate sides helped the people because the politicians couldn't steal it all and continuing the "investment gave the more civilized  countries (US , USSR & to a lesser extent China ) some influence in keeping the atrocities to a reasonable level.
The root of many of the problems in Africa, (Somalia, Liberia, Rwanda, etc ) was that with the end of the open confrontation between Super Power's no one had any stake in maintaining stability in these places. From a view point of pure national interest, who really gives a crap what happens in Darfur, or Sierra Leone ? Honestly ? No one except NGO's who owe their existance to the continuing mis fortune of these people.

Has anyone seen Robert Duval lately?

I was thinking Omar Sharif .   

[TAB]

you know we give egypt about 1.5 billion a year in aid...




 



we need to stop givng out aid.

[fightingquaker13]

you know we give egypt about 1.5 billion a year in aid...




 



we need to stop givng out aid.

If the Muslim Brotherhood takes power we sure as hell should. That might see them gone. No one is these countries is really protesting for religion, its all about pocket book stuff. The radicals are just taking advantage. Let folks know that if Jihad-is-Us takes power, the money stops.
FQ13