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MikeBjerum

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Re: Egypt and gun control
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2011, 03:57:27 PM »
Which brings up the question of "If we are broke, why are we giving out aid to other countries?"
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2011, 04:05:51 PM »
Which brings up the question of "If we are broke, why are we giving out aid to other countries?"
Its to buy good will of course. Just look at Afghanistan. We were the Taliban's number one sourse of humanitarian aid pre-911 they were grateful. The Egyptians love us, every one of them, and the Israeli's always do as they are told. Hell, nothing guarantees a big hug quite like wearing an American flag t-shirt in almost any country we give aid to. See how well its working? ::) I'm with Rand Paul here, cut all the bastards off except for very targeted programs.
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Re: Egypt and gun control
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2011, 04:10:35 PM »
Just pay them to stay there and play nicely--or at least not drag us into the fight.  Suez canal and the oil pipeline keep our interest.

I think if we cold-turkey stopped paying any aid the world would actually stop going around.
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Re: Egypt and gun control
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 04:13:51 PM »
I got interrupted before I finished my last thought, but you two touched on it ...

It's an extortion payment!

Just like giving the school yard bully your milk money  >:(
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Re: Egypt and gun control
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2011, 06:44:47 PM »
I got interrupted before I finished my last thought, but you two touched on it ...

It's an extortion payment!

Just like giving the school yard bully your milk money  >:(

No, actually a large chunk of it is military aid so they can can intimidate Libya.
More like giving the bully a bat so he will split the other kids lunch money with you.  ;D

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Re: Egypt and gun control
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2011, 06:55:50 PM »
No, actually a large chunk of it is military aid so they can can intimidate Libya.
More like giving the bully a bat so he will split the other kids lunch money with you.  ;D
The upside (?) is that they have to spend that on our stuff, so its basically the equivilent of us giving them a Sears card. Still, I think Israel can afford its own weapons, and as for the rest, I really don't care.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2011, 11:08:53 PM »
The upside (?) is that they have to spend that on our stuff, so its basically the equivilent of us giving them a Sears card. Still, I think Israel can afford its own weapons, and as for the rest, I really don't care.
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No, we don't give them cash to buy our gear. We give them the gear and the value is counted as "aid money".
The socialists claimed during the Cold war that we distributed far more weaponry than the Soviet's based on comparative value.
This was a classic case of "lies, damned lies, and statistics".
We gave Naval vessel's, modern air craft, radar systems, and other high cost items by the dozen. The Soviets on the other hand were passing out small arms like AK's, and RPG's by the thousands, and ammo by the millions to any one who asked.

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Re: Egypt and gun control
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2011, 11:32:31 PM »
No, we don't give them cash to buy our gear. We give them the gear and the value is counted as "aid money".
The socialists claimed during the Cold war that we distributed far more weaponry than the Soviet's based on comparative value.
This was a classic case of "lies, damned lies, and statistics".
We gave Naval vessel's, modern air craft, radar systems, and other high cost items by the dozen. The Soviets on the other hand were passing out small arms like AK's, and RPG's by the thousands, and ammo by the millions to any one who asked.
Sad fact (or maybe encouraging fact) is that even though we won the Cold War, I still think they got more bang for the buck. All the guys withe F16s and and tanks are scared spitless of the guys with the $200 AKs and $1000 RPGs. It seems we could have saved some serious money. :-\
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Re: Egypt and gun control
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2011, 07:18:35 AM »
you know we give egypt about 1.5 billion a year in aid...




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we need to stop givng out aid.
Hear you 5 by 5
Our lovelly Prime Minister aka red headed clown, has just given us a new tax called the Flood Levy, basically if you earn over 50k you pay an extra 1% tax if over 100k 2% under 50 nothing. This is to raise nearly 2 billion for rebuild qld from the recent floods.
What shits me is that we give over 4 billion to Africa and the Middle east in aid, well pardon moi for being a un caring non sensitive bastard but screw them, if she wants to use money for charity then dont raise taxes, reduce govt overseas aid to these despot piss ant camel jockey infested flea bag lice ridden ass ends of the world first.
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Re: Egypt and gun control
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2011, 11:05:26 AM »
Hear you 5 by 5
Our lovelly Prime Minister aka red headed clown, has just given us a new tax called the Flood Levy, basically if you earn over 50k you pay an extra 1% tax if over 100k 2% under 50 nothing. This is to raise nearly 2 billion for rebuild qld from the recent floods.
What shits me is that we give over 4 billion to Africa and the Middle east in aid, well pardon moi for being a un caring non sensitive bastard but screw them, if she wants to use money for charity then dont raise taxes, reduce govt overseas aid to these despot piss ant camel jockey infested flea bag lice ridden ass ends of the world first.

Charity begins at home.

 

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