Do you need a magnum rifle?

[JC5123]

Obviously there are exceptions for long range, or African game.

This was going to be my ONLY point. As a long range shooter, I am hugely interested in a .338 LM. Simply for the fact that you can get accuracy out to a mile. From a tactical standpoint, this is a good thing.  For me this would be a play gun and I would never hunt with it, as the terminal ballistics would destroy anything that I would hunt. I agree with you about having a lighter recoil help with accuracy. Although as an experienced shooter I have learned to compensate for recoil. This is not a rifle that I would recommend for a new shooter, or a hunter. But if you dropped me into Afghanistan tomorrow, I would give my left nut for a .338.

[tombogan03884]

If I want to use a magnum to kill a mosquito thats my choice. Do I need the magnum to do it? No, but I will use it. Life is too short to use what everyone thinks you should use to hunt when you want to use something else.

As far as I am concerned the only difference between hunting and the tactical is that your game is on two feet and can shoot back. I would go for the biggest thing I can handle and it would be a magnum.  If i ever had to use it, i would want the guy next to him saying "What the f*** was that. Im getting the hell outa here."

And THAT is the point.


There is another thing you are ignoring, An ethical hunter goes for the cleanest kill possible. In a "tactical situation if your recoil induced flinch means you hit Abdul in the balls instead of between the eyes no one much gives a crap.

[bodean87]

And THAT is the point.


There is another thing you are ignoring, An ethical hunter goes for the cleanest kill possible. In a "tactical situation if your recoil induced flinch means you hit Abdul in the balls instead of between the eyes no one much gives a crap.

if i flinched that bad I wouldnt use it for either purpose. If I made a bad shot I would rather it be with a magnum. I give a crap because I didnt hit where I was aiming and the next time it could be a complete miss. I think i stated that wrong. I want to use a magnum therefore i need a magnum.

[billt]

If we support the, ".243 is all you need" philosophy, we would all be driving 4 cylinder Ford Focus's as well. We don't.  Bill T.

[JC5123]

If we support the, ".243 is all you need" philosophy, we would all be driving 4 cylinder Ford Focus's as well. We don't.  Bill T.

Here is what I want to know: How do you and KPR ever make it out to shoot? If I had your gun rooms I'd never make it out the door. 8 hours later I'd still be standing there scratching my head going "which one do I want to play with today?"

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[fightingquaker13]

If we support the, ".243 is all you need" philosophy, we would all be driving 4 cylinder Ford Focus's as well. We don't.  Bill T.

Need is a relative word Bill. The point of the podcast is to let people know that "what you need" is both easily manageable and cheap, if all you want to do is put venison in the freezer. Too many folks think they need the latest magnum whackinator done up in cammo with a hideously expensive piece of glass on it to go hunting. The point was to say "Relax, that $300 savage with a Simmons scope or your gandad's old 30-30 with iron sights is just fine". Its like me and my computer search. I know I COULD buy some $2k wonder machine that would let me fly a preadator drone, but its nice to hear someone say "you really don't need that, here's a nice one for $500". Beyond that, its what your wallet and recoil tolerance will take.
FQ13 who is not hating magnums, I just think its nice to remind newbies, and reremind us older folks who sometimes suffer from the "Igottahaveit" syndrome that simpler will work just fine.

[billt]

Need is a relative word Bill. The point of the podcast is to let people know that "what you need" is both easily manageable and cheap, if all you want to do is put venison in the freezer. FQ13

Most all meat hunters already know that. Car enthusiasts drive high powered, expensive automobiles. Gun enthusiasts shoot big, expensive, high powered rifles. It's that way with most everything. The reason you see so many flashbulbs going off in the stands at football games, is because there are so many people there with $75.00 cameras who just want a picture. It's the pros on the sidelines who have the $3,000.00 cameras with the $7,000.00 lenses attached.  Bill T.

[tombogan03884]

Don't bother FQ, They can't grasp the concept .
You and I are stupid because we can't can't comprehend that you just can't get the job done with out spending a small fortune on what this months gun magazines are claiming is the latest greatest.
Funny part is that a lot of Buffalo  (13 MILLION in 2 years ) were taken with black powder, quite a few with black powder PISTOLS.

[bodean87]

Don't bother FQ, They can't grasp the concept .
You and I are stupid because we can't can't comprehend that you just can't get the job done with out spending a small fortune on what this months gun magazines are claiming is the latest greatest.
Funny part is that a lot of Buffalo  (13 MILLION in 2 years ) were taken with black powder, quite a few with black powder PISTOLS.

I grasp the concept. I'm going to use whatever round i want to use.Dont take this the wrong way but I dont care what someone on the internet said I need or should use. If i want to spend 3 or 4 dollars a round on a weatherby i will. ( but i dont, its cheaper to reload). i dont know what you have against magnums but I have never saide everyone should use them. All i have said is to use what you want and not worry about what someone else believes you should use.If balckpowder is your thing then use it. The most importatnt part is that your outside and hunting.

[tombogan03884]

Bodean, I'll put this in little words, use whatever the f*ck you want, it is not necessary to use magnum rounds. that is a matter of your choice which has nothing to do with the first post.
No body gives a crap what you want to use, The post was about can you get the damned job done with a smaller round.