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Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« on: February 28, 2011, 10:49:45 AM »
(They say you can't fix stupid but this is not what we need;
Accidental Stupid Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show .


Well it took at least three people to pull this off.  We just do not ever need this kind of crap!
Maybe "they" should not have firearms in Illinois.  

[b]Two injured in accidental shooting at Bloomington gun show[/b]

http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local/article_ccf5806e-41df-11e0-a8c6-001cc4c03286.html


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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 02:09:57 PM »
Ok, let's address the obvious questions:  1)  What kind of an asshat doesn't make sure the guns he's displaying at a gun show are unloaded?  2)  What kind of an asshat picks up a gun from a table at a gun show and doesn't verify that's it's unloaded.


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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 02:35:33 PM »
It is perturbing that they insist on calling something that is nothing but negligence an "accident."   :(

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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 02:38:51 PM »
It is perturbing that they insist on calling something that is nothing but negligence an "accident."   :(

No doubt!!  At least be accurate.  Call it a clusterf**k.......or a brainfart.......ANYTHING but an accident.  Unless these people ACCIDENTALLY had their heads stuck so far up their ass that they could see their own tonsils.
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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 04:29:30 PM »
When you are at a range there is a place to call it "accidental," but any other time it is negligent!
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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 04:33:31 PM »
Even at the NRA show, where "rumor" had it that ALL the firing pins were removed; EVERY firearm I lovingly fondled was checked and verified clear. It's just habit.....

All the shows here in S. Flordi"duh", are tie wrapped actions open.

Serious buyers can request the tie wrap be cut, and I STILL check and verify "clear".

I hate reading stories like this, it gives the anti's "ammo" and leads to tougher reg's.

It is NEGLIGENCE, NOT an accident.

 The seller didn't have such habits, and the buyer didn't re-verify, and whose booger hook was near the bang switch?

Damn lucky for those shot, that their still alive.. >:(

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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 04:47:29 PM »
When I take a gun out of a case I check it.  When I'm in the process of putting back in the case I check it and then make, if it has a hammer that it is dropped.

The shop policy is that the employees have to check all guns if they come in to be sold, traded or come in for repair.  A week ago or so, one of our regular customers came in to buy have night sights and have them put on a new gun.  I started to open the case and he tells me that the gun is unloaded.  I still make sure the mag is dropped and I rack the slide.  To his surprise a cartridge pops out of the gun.  My heart skips a beat and BP goes up and I say, "That is why I check a gun EVERY time because A GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED."
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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 05:48:58 PM »
A GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED."




Amen, brother!!

BTW, your store in Circle Pines has a VERY nice range.  We shot there for qualification when I took my NRA Pistol Instructor Course.
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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 07:17:54 PM »
Maybe we should start saying "That gun is loaded" every time we hand a gun to someone, or present it to them on a counter, even if the action is open.

When they question why we said it when the gun appeared empty, we can answer "The gun is ALWAYS loaded until you check it yourself".
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Re: Can't Fix Stupid: Accidental Discharge at ILLINOIS Gun Show
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 07:55:32 PM »
"The gun is ALWAYS loaded until you check it yourself".

So true Solus. It appears, the gun "handling" rules we, and previous generations grew up with obeying as LAW, has slipped into a level of complacency.

A co-worker, and I were admiring  his recent purchase at his home, he removed it from the case, racked the slide, pointed at the floor and dry fired it, than handed it to me. ???

Since when has "pointing at the floor" and pulling a trigger become clear and verify?

. Simply open the action/cylinder, and hand it butt first, where a responsible handler will clear and verify AGAIN.

I told him that for showing or handing a firearm to someone, one should NEVER "test" what should be a visible inspection and keep your damn booger hook off the damn bang switch.

BTW, he still calls them "clips".....Believe me, I am trying to correct what are bad habits.

Amazing how this crap can be avoided, if we just remember what our parents and grandparents taught us.


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