Street Justice In The Bronx...Thoughts on Intervention?

[Solus]

The deceased had been arrested for domestic violence against his mother.

Don't know if she also needed a tune up, but I'm sure this young fellow needed an adjustment....and he received the ultimate one.

I also don't know if the guy who stuck his nose into the beating is a scum bag or not, but this time he did his community a service.

[ratcatcher55]

This is one example of your stupidity, You live in a state that allows you to carry a Glock

Sorry Tom but if I lived in the Bronx I would carry a gun legally or other wise.

[Pathfinder]

Tom, FQ, et al. you're missing the point. The guy was not shot because he was beating on the woman. The beater (aka "the punk) went after the Good Samaritan when the GS told the punk to stop the beating. That is when the weapon was drawn and fired. At that point, I would see my life being jeopardized and would draw as well.

As for the face shot, maybe the guy didn't have Gunsite, Thunder Ranch et al. credentials working for him, and he took the shot he had. Besides, there have been discussions here of the best way to end the fight is to mess with the brain's signals to the rest of the body. Lacking that, or unsure of the ability to make that shot, we take the CoM shots.

And yes, when I read the article, my first thought was that the GS is probably not entirely legal, CCW in NY and all, plus the neighborhood. At this point, I'm with a lot of the others, I would not vote to convict regardless of past.

[tombogan03884]

This is one example of your stupidity, You live in a state that allows you to carry a Glock

Sorry Tom but if I lived in the Bronx I would carry a gun legally or other wise.

Me too , but the "or otherwise" would make us criminals.
Even if the "Good Samaritan" were carrying legally, (Which I still highly doubt since he ran off ) This is a classic case of "You don't know all the facts" like MB has mentioned a few times on his podcast. The dead guy had been charged 10 times, but never convicted, (it would have mentioned if he had done time ) this was a normal occurrence, they fight, he slaps her around, she or the neighbors call the Cops who haul him off and charge him, then she declines to push it and the next day he's home again. 10 times only accounts for the times she, or the neighbors get pissed enough to bother calling the Cops, or they are still fighting when the cops get there, it does not count the times that went unreported, or the Cops just said, " oh, it's them again".
Pathfinder raises an excellent point   "The guy was not shot because he was beating on the woman. The beater (aka "the punk) went after the Good Samaritan when the GS told the punk to stop the beating. "
In fact, by sticking his nose into the situation the shooter escalated the situation.
In most states a prosecutor would maintain that by interfering he escalated a more or less "regularly scheduled event" into a deadly encounter.
Even if he had a CCW, it is not a badge, Cities pay big bucks to have people (cops ) waiting around, trained for just such situations, and they show up in numbers greater than one. They are also equipped with things like Tazer's and clubs, so they have options other than a bullet to the head.
Even if the shooter were completely legal otherwise he will now at best have to worry about facing charges of some level of murder.

[Paraguy]

If Marty Hayes of the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network (as seen on TBD) offered to represent this guy and there was a collection to pay for representation, I would chip in a few $ for the cause.  The more criminals that see the good guys winning and the bad guys losing (for a change) there might start to be a movement of people thinking twice twice about beating a woman (or anyone for that matter) in the future.

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[tombogan03884]

But there is no indication that he was a good guy.
Sounds much more like crap on crap to me.

[ratcatcher55]

Me too , but the "or otherwise" would make us criminals.

Tom,

OK.  If the state wants me to become a criminal to protect my life and that of my family, I will happly oblige them and start acting like one. 
I do agree it sounds like two not so nice folks colliding.  I just don't have any tears for the victim.

[usmcdadx2]

Not that my opinion matters all that much but I’ll throw it out there. Never hit a girl is BS... I’ll grant you, “Never hit a lady” but I will not give a free pass based on plumbing. Case in point from many, many years ago; intoxicated female(no connection to me at all) decided to go ape shit in a bar screaming at and hitting people as I attempted to leave she took a swipe at my face with her sharpened, lacquered claws. The knuckle strike to the solar plexus was totally called for.

The “B” word... yes sometimes it applies, see above.

Abused and abuser; the abuse is wrong but in many/most cases the abused is complicit in the cycle

As to our “good Sam”; based on where this event took place at the Patterson Houses I’m going to go out on a limb and say that he is as much a bad actor as the winner that got shot. These houses are run by the New York Housing Auth. and are crawling with gangs, drugs and all of the trappings that go with that. In my mind’s eye I can see the “mind my business!” followed by the 9 turned on its side and pointed at yahoo’s head.

Just my 2 cents worth.

[MikeBjerum]

But there is no indication that he was a good guy.
Sounds much more like crap on crap to me.

Darwin effect!

I can live with that as well 

[Hazcat]