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Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« on: March 25, 2011, 08:18:18 AM »
Donald Trump is not backing down from his demand that President Barack Obama produce his birth certificate and stepped up his criticism by questioning why he has not released other personal records, including college transcripts and legislative papers.

The billionaire real estate tycoon and star of “The Apprentice” created a stir on Wednesday when he said on “The View” that Trump must release his birth certificate.

Now Trump has reiterated his call in an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, with this simple message for Obama: Why don’t you produce your birth certificate and put to rest all speculation that you were born outside the United States?

He says Obama’s birth certificate controversy is a “strange situation” — there are conflicting reports as to what Honolulu hospital he was born at, and the governor of Hawaii claims he somehow remembers Obama being born 50 years ago.

Trump, who says he will soon announce if he will run for president in 2012, also says Libya is a “total mess,” with Iran possibly behind the rebels and waiting to take over the country, and charges that the United States is going to “hell in a hand basket.”

“It’s a very simple situation,” Trump says in regard to the birth certificate issue. “I’d just like to see his birth certificate.

“I’m hearing all sorts of stories that his own family can’t agree which hospital he was born in and lots of other things, and I’m trying to find out where is the birth certificate. I have a birth certificate. Where is his birth certificate?

“If you’re born in this country, to the best of my knowledge people have a birth certificate.”

Obama asserts that he was born in Honolulu, but former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip Berg has claimed that Obama’s paternal grandmother says she was in the delivery room when he was born in Kenya.

There are even differing reports about which Honolulu hospital he may have been born at. During his 2008 presidential campaign numerous reports indicated Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center. Later, Obama's half sister said he was born at the Katiolani Medical Center.

After questions were raised about his birth, Obama's campaign released a Certification of Live Birth. The form is a summary document and does not include the newborn's location of birth. The long-form Birth Certificate includes such data, but Obama has declined to release it.

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie first ordered the state attorney general and health department director to release more information about Obama’s birth there, then abandoned that pursuit.

“It is an amazing situation,” Trump says of the governor’s actions.
“And later the governor said, but I remember when he was born. I said, what? You actually remember when somebody was born? It sounded very unusual that a Democratic governor would remember when somebody was born 50 years ago.

“I assume that Obama was born in the United States. I assume he was probably born in Hawaii. But I have to get rid of the word ‘assume.’ If somebody wants to run for president you have to be born in this country.

And when the family argues about which hospital it was because they’re not sure, as has been reported, and you don’t have a birth certificate, it’s sort of a strange situation.”





Trump adds: “I don’t want there to be a question. I think it would be wonderful news for everybody, including me, if the birth certificate is found. But at this moment there is no birth certificate.

“Some people say it exists, and if it exists, even worse, why isn’t he showing it? So I would like to see a birth certificate, and when the governor and everybody else say they think it exists, why don’t they produce it?”

Asked if Obama has fulfilled his campaign pledge to have the most transparent administration, Trump responds: “Certainly he hasn’t in terms of his birth, and I guess a lot of college records and other records haven’t been produced, and that’s a little unusual. Why wouldn’t you produce your records?

“There are client lists that haven’t been produced and lobbying lists that haven’t been produced, so there are a lot of things that haven’t been produced for somebody who is supposed to be so transparent.

“There’s certainly not a lot of transparency.”

Asked about the Obama administration’s handling of the rebellion in Libya, Trump tells Newsmax: “For one thing, if you’re going to save lives on a humanitarian basis you should have started sooner, because many of those lives are gone.

“For another thing, you really have to find out who you’re fighting for. Who are the rebels? You have some people who say that Iran is controlling the rebels, that Iran is the happiest of all nations because they think as soon as we leave they’re going to go in with the rebels and take over Libya.

“I hear more and more reports that the rebels aren’t the sweetest people on earth either. It looks to me like it’s a total mess.”

Polls show Trump among the leaders in the GOP field for the 2012 presidential nomination. Asked if he has decided whether or not to run, Trump says: “I will be announcing one way or another somewhere prior to June.

“I hate what’s happening to this country. It’s never been at a point like this, ever. We’re not respected. We’re scoffed at. We’re laughed at by other places. People from China and other places cannot believe they’re getting away with what they’re getting away with. We’re rebuilding China. We’re rebuilding other countries, and our country is going to hell in a hand basket.

“One thing I can say, if I ran and if I won, that would stop, and everybody knows it. I think that’s why I do well in the polls.”



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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 12:13:19 PM »
The fact that his Mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth makes the location of the event completely irrelevant, He is in fact a "Natural Born" citizen of the US.
That being said, there are still 2 questions that desperately need answers:
1- Why all the secrecy and deception about his past, what is he hiding ?
2- Is this guy actually who he claims to be ? He has never even proven that .

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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 12:25:04 PM »
The fact that his Mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth makes the location of the event completely irrelevant, He is in fact a "Natural Born" citizen of the US.
That being said, there are still 2 questions that desperately need answers:
1- Why all the secrecy and deception about his past, what is he hiding ?
2- Is this guy actually who he claims to be ? He has never even proven that .
Amen to all of the above. I was watching the news earlier and Ron Reagan was beating his head on the desk. "So far we have Palin, Bachman and Trump. All the GOP needs now is for Snookie to get into the race". ;D  I agree. Is there anyone serious other than Pawlenty and (I hate to say this) Barbour and Gingrich?
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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2011, 12:32:27 PM »
I'm glad to see this resurface, and for it to come from a person like Donald Trump.  The BHO supporters will start screaming "birther" and all that crap.  But at some point he needs to put this to rest.

If everything is legal and above board Pres. BHO needs to pull out the birth records, and all of his school records.  Simple as that.  I know they love to watch some groups rant over this, and they are trying to make political hay on it, but the question has never been answered.

Until all the facts are put on the table I will continue to assume that where there is smoke there is fire, and Pres. BHO can extinguish the smoke quickly if he chooses - But he continues to let it show  >:(
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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 02:42:59 PM »
There is something seriously fishy about bho from the very get go.

If he was born abroad, he has to have paperwork to certify his citizenship, normally a straight-forward process. There was a story just this week about a 95 year old WWII vet who was born in Canada to American parents, who somehow never got the paperwork completed. My guess on this is that the paperwork was never certified for bho, and in fact he was declared as a citizen of some country where we do not have reciprocity, which was a rare thing in those days. IIRC, dual citizenship was only allowed with Israel in the 50's.

Moving on, who paid for his stint at Harvard? Not his commie mommie.

Why does his SSN not match anything anyone knows about his life and where he lived. The SSN comes from CT, bho never lived there.

What passports did he travel on as a student?

IIRC, there was also a question about a scholarship he received that is only for foreign (i.e., not US citizens) nationals.

Too many questions. Good for Trump, let's start getting some answers.
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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 03:16:28 PM »
The fact that his Mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth makes the location of the event completely irrelevant, He is in fact a "Natural Born" citizen of the US.
That being said, there are still 2 questions that desperately need answers:
1- Why all the secrecy and deception about his past, what is he hiding ?
2- Is this guy actually who he claims to be ? He has never even proven that .


I don't buy that. Simply because of anchor babies. The kid is a citizen of the country of birth, regardless of the citizenship of the parents. The only exception  is military bases or embassies. They are sovereign territory of the country that occupies the installation. That's why McCain is a natural born U.S. citizen.   
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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 03:37:20 PM »
Historically in the US citizenship of the child follows that of the mother, unless the parents were married. A father's citizenship won't cut it which is why a lot of Korean and Vietnamese kids got screwed. Too bad because if daddy was black they had a sh@tty life. If you were born on US soil you are a "natural born citizen" according to the 14A. But before that, if Mom was Amercan, so were you. Its kind of ironic in that a woman's citizenship was encompassed under her husband's back in the day, but her child's wasn't. So, an American woman marrying a British man was British, but her kids were American. ::) Anyway, BO is eligible for office regardless of where he was born. Its just the secrecy about the whole thing that is grating.
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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 03:50:14 PM »
The fact that his Mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth makes the location of the event completely irrelevant, He is in fact a "Natural Born" citizen of the US.
That being said, there are still 2 questions that desperately need answers:
1- Why all the secrecy and deception about his past, what is he hiding ?
2- Is this guy actually who he claims to be ? He has never even proven that .
Not if his mother isn't his REAL mother... 
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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 03:55:10 PM »
There is something seriously fishy about bho from the very get go.

If he was born abroad, he has to have paperwork to certify his citizenship, normally a straight-forward process. There was a story just this week about a 95 year old WWII vet who was born in Canada to American parents, who somehow never got the paperwork completed. My guess on this is that the paperwork was never certified for bho, and in fact he was declared as a citizen of some country where we do not have reciprocity, which was a rare thing in those days. IIRC, dual citizenship was only allowed with Israel in the 50's.

Moving on, who paid for his stint at Harvard? Not his commie mommie.

Why does his SSN not match anything anyone knows about his life and where he lived. The SSN comes from CT, bho never lived there.

What passports did he travel on as a student?

IIRC, there was also a question about a scholarship he received that is only for foreign (i.e., not US citizens) nationals.

Too many questions. Good for Trump, let's start getting some answers.
All those things are possible for those who have committed various frauds.  He might just be the most successful grifter ever! 

I keep hearing that nobody remembers him from here or from there but they remember him from Indonesia, somebody remembered him from Kenya...  That is odd to me.  Take me for example.  Put my face on TV and you'll likely have somebody from every one of the 13 places I lived before I was 18 who remembers me.  For previous Presidents many have come forward with various anecdotes about their earlier life, childhood, etc. yet we just don't hear these about Obama.  Why? 
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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 04:51:24 PM »
The fact that his Mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth makes the location of the event completely irrelevant, He is in fact a "Natural Born" citizen of the US.
That being said, there are still 2 questions that desperately need answers:
1- Why all the secrecy and deception about his past, what is he hiding ?
2- Is this guy actually who he claims to be ? He has never even proven that .

Not true.  There is some sort of 8 consecutive year thing before Ovomit was born,  I'll need to look up the details but that is in question as well.
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