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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2011, 08:04:17 AM »
There are legal ways to become a citizen of the US.

There are legal ways to become president of the US.

You follow the laws involved and work to change them if you feel they are faulty.

However, becoming an Undocumented Immigrant or an Undocumented President are not options we should allow.

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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2011, 09:05:46 AM »
The issue is not B.O.s citizenship but rather his place of birth. He is a citizen do to his mother being a US citizen. The constitution does state the to be president you must be born on US soil. The US also allows  any land classified as US soil such as military bases, embassies etc. Since B.O. won't release his birth certificate the question lingers.

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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2011, 10:58:36 AM »
The issue is not B.O.s citizenship but rather his place of birth. He is a citizen do to his mother being a US citizen. The constitution does state the to be president you must be born on US soil. The US also allows  any land classified as US soil such as military bases, embassies etc. Since B.O. won't release his birth certificate the question lingers.


And therein lies the problem.  He could easily put the issue to rest, but there must be a reason he doesn't.  Only two come to mind:
1)  There is some fire imbedded in all this smoke, OR 2)  He wants his opponents occupied with the qualification issue so they don't notice him bending us over the desk.
I love waking up every morning knowing that Donald Trump is President!!

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Re: Trump Refuses to Back Down Over Obama's 'Very Strange' Birth
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2011, 11:09:30 AM »
Umm, as usual, you are half right and half wrong. Congress can (and should) set requirements on who can come. Personally, I'd as soon go back to the pre-68 laws, but that's just me. Where you are dead wrong though is in dealing with a child born to an American citizen. Here, its not just about which forieners get in. It is about HER right to transfer her citizenship to her child. Spin it how you want, its about an American citizen's rights to bestow the most important thing she has, citizenship in this country. The 14A applies here if it applies anywhere.
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That is where YOU are wrong, that is not a "Right". it is something the Constitution says will be regulated by rules set by Congress.


The issue is not B.O.s citizenship but rather his place of birth. He is a citizen do to his mother being a US citizen. The constitution does state the to be president you must be born on US soil. The US also allows  any land classified as US soil such as military bases, embassies etc. Since B.O. won't release his birth certificate the question lingers.

It does not say that. Look up the definition of "Natural born". It means some one born with undisputed US citizenship. If both Obama's parents were US citizens we would not be having this discussion.
Just like the ignorant azzes who tried to say McCain couldn't be Pres because his 2 citizen parents were in a US Navy hospital in the Canal zone.

 

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