Florida Corruption, Making Mexico look Better By The Day

[tombogan03884]

Quit your whining FQ, IIRC you are one of the ones who was demanding piss tests for welfare recipients, (Govt workers have been tested for the last 10 or 20 years ) Deal making is what makes the world go round, You got what you wanted, some one else gets what they wanted, hell, it might even have been the lowest bid.
It will be a long time before any one actually benefits any way, cuz this will be headed for SCOTUS when the first crack whore gets turned down.

[LittleRed]

I think it is a good move.

I understand the concern about Solantic, but at this point I would cry foul. Solantic is one of many companies that offer this service.

Now, IF Solantic were the sole provider of drug testing, got a no-bid contract, or some other preferential treatment, THEN I think there would be a problem.

As far as the South Florida Water MIS-Management District, what do we need them for again? 

 

[cookie62]

If his company was doing all the testing, yes it's wrong. But did the article say that or are you just assuming it? You know what they say about "assuming".

[fightingquaker13]

Allright. I will raise my hands in surrender, but I do think the Koolaid has gotten to you a bit. As a test I'll ask the following question. If Rick Scott were BO and Solantic was put under Michelle's name would you, or would you not, be screamining bloody murder? And guess what, you'd be right.  I'd like an honest answer to that question from the usual suspects. Path has given one. As a Chicago refugee he calls corruption where he sees it. Good for him. As for the rest of you, substitute BO for Scott and ask whether you'd think this was ok. You can call me many things, but not a hypocrite on ethics. I will nail both parties. Yeah I dislike W and Palin, but I ain't so hot on BO either and the Water Mangement District gal is a Dem. So, is this an issue regardless of party or not? Just askin'.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

You want piss tests for welfare recipients, You got them, (pending court fights ), Would you rather he did it the way most politicians do and just accepted a real cheap housing loan (Cris Dodd/Country wide ) or an envelope stuffed with cash ?
On the corruption scale this is nothing.
I'm not commenting on the Water Dept. thing as I don't know any of the back story on it.

PS  I went back and reread your OP.
The Water Dept thing is corruption because the boy friend has no auditing experience . Does he have experience with running Water utilities ?
The earlier medical company seems to have already been doing drug testing.

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[fightingquaker13]

You want piss tests for welfare recipients, You got them, (pending court fights ), Would you rather he did it the way most politicians do and just accepted a real cheap housing loan (Cris Dodd/Country wide ) or an envelope stuffed with cash ?
On the corruption scale this is nothing.
I'm not commenting on the Water Dept. thing as I don't know any of the back story on it.

PS  I went back and reread your OP.
The Water Dept thing is corruption because the boy friend has no auditing experience . Does he have experience with running Water utilities ?
The earlier medical company seems to have already been doing drug testing.

Actually, I'm against Piss testing except for cause or job or security reasons (pilots and cops basically). I think it violates the spirit of the 5A whether its public or private employment.  But that's not the issue. That's a different debate for a different day. As far as the Water folks, well the guy is a very well respected engineer. He knows his stuff. Down side? He has never been an auditor, is an insider in the department and got a $190,000 job from his girfriend to investigate his girfriend. Look, I'm not about politics here. I'm about taking money out of my wallet and putting it (directly in both cases) into the wallets of politicians. This annoys me.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

On the piss test thing we'll go with "I have to to earn it they should have to for the hand out". On that we will agree.
So on that basis, you wanted it.
You stated that the Water Dept needed to be audited, so you wanted that as well.
First off, you are completely ignoring the fine old tradition of "Patronage" that has been part of politics for about 3000 years.
How do you think Brutus got into the Roman Senate ? He was a 20 something with no accomplishments, But his assumed father was had been in the Senate, and his real Father pulled strings for the ungrateful little backstabber.
In the case of the Gov. I would be willing to bet that every facility that can do the welfare tests has been doing  pre employment testing and CDL licenses, Pilots licenses etc. those are all previously state licensed. It is not corruption it is simply continuing to do more of what they have been doing right along.
On the Water thing, the fact of him being a respected engineer offsets his lack of auditing experience, He can hire a CPA, things like Utilities have a lot of technical aspects that a numbers guy would not understand. They could tell him the exact truth, and  with out the technical background to understand what they are saying, they could still steal him blind. She probably picked some one she trusted.
On the other hand she should have got someone from outside, who she was not boffing like Barney Frank and the guy from Fannie May.

[tt11758]

A couple of "if's" need to be answered before I call foul on the drug testing issue.  IF, the Governor's wife's company is the ONLY company receiving state payments for doing the testing, and IF there was no bidding process, then yes, I call foul.  Otherwise, no. 

After all, where is it written that the spouse of a politician isn't allowed to make a living once their spouse is elected to public office?

Does it look good?  Not hardly.  Is it corruption?  Not necessarily.

And before you say anything, FQ, the party affiliation doesn't matter to me.  I don't think either party is worth a damn anymore.

[tombogan03884]

The point I've been trying to make is "did they say "Company x gets to do all of this testing", (doubtful since it is state wide), or did they say, "All state certified companies can do this testing", (which is much more likely.)

[tt11758]

The point I've been trying to make is "did they say "Company x gets to do all of this testing", (doubtful since it is state wide), or did they say, "All state certified companies can do this testing", (which is much more likely.)

One more reason you're at the top of the ticket.  You state more succinctly in one sentence what it took me 3 paragraphs to write attempt to say..