A Ruger 1911 at last....

[2HOW]

I like the made in the USA, I dont like cheap imports. The only knock against my Springfields is that all there frames made in Brazil. Then again I own at least 12 different Rugers maybe one more wont hurt.

Made in US don't mean a thing when it comes to saving your life, I use what works best for me , I don't care where its made, if it will save my life.

[bafsu92]

Made in US don't mean a thing when it comes to saving your life, I use what works best for me , I don't care where its made, if it will save my life.

that's great, one of the reasons Glocks sell so well. However all things being equal if you can buy an American product for the same or slightly more than a comparable product from, say the Philippines, then as an American you should choose the American product. I don't always blindly buy the American product but I do buy it whenever it makes sense. I can't bring myself to buy a 1911 that isn't American made, it just seems wrong. I recent;y got a Taurus 1911 in trade and as well built as it was (after I replaced all the internals including that f'ing hammer lock) I traded it away anyway because it just felt wrong. The 1911 is a symbol of American superiority and shouldn't be made outside of the US.

[gunman42782]

Made in US don't mean a thing when it comes to saving your life, I use what works best for me , I don't care where its made, if it will save my life.

One reason nobody makes anything here anymore.  And nobody has a job anymore either.

[seeker_two]

Seeker Two beat me to making a comment about Glock making a 1911. 

Thanks....can't seem to find my post, though.....hmmm.....

I'm not saying that Ruger can't make a good 1911....in fact, I bet it'll be one of the best 1911's made....I'm just disappointed that Ruger decided to make a "me too" 1911 instead of using the opportunity to do something totally innovative....I mean, this is the company that made the LCP, the LCR, the SR9c, and the LC9.....I expected more from them.... 

[kilopaparomeo]

... instead of using the opportunity to do something totally innovative....I mean, this is the company that made the LCP, the LCR, the SR9c, and the LC9.....I expected more from them....  

Hmmm, wait a minute:

LCP -- nope, a small, polymer .380 was already out there.  Kel-Tec P38T.  Ruger took an existing concept and made it with quality and reliable.
LCP -- ok, I'll give you that one.  Innovative use of polymer in a revolver and beat S&W to the market.
SR9c -- let's see, a compact polymer 9mm.  Only innovative if you discount that the baby Glocks,  M&P9 compacts, SA XD9 were already out there.
LC9 -- again, sub-compact, polymer 9mm were already out there.  KT PF9, Kahr, etc.

Don't get me wrong.  Ruger is a great company.  But their strength lies in making rugged, reliable guns, not necessarily super innovative ones.  Based on that strategy, thies redition of the 1911 makes perfect sense.

They can be innovative, but it doesn't happen very often.

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[Timothy]

Made in US don't mean a thing when it comes to saving your life, I use what works best for me , I don't care where its made, if it will save my life.

Not knocking you a bit but here's where I stand.  

RIA is a Philippine company making 1911 handguns.  It's an overseas company, no problem with that.  Springfield, OTOH is a US company making guns and parts OVERSEAS, sending our work elsewhere and not using US labor.

Completely different for me.  I'd buy a RIA 1911 over a Springfield for that reason alone.  Hell, I'd buy a Glock out of Smyrna, GA before I bought a Springfield!  Hell, I'd buy just about anything over a Springfield Armory gun at this point.

[MAUSERMAN]

You say that made in the US means nothing when it comes to the quality of the tool you stake your life on. Ok Glock,Walther,Sig Sauer, HK, these firms make great firearms and also benefit from countless years of experience and high quality standards. On the other hand would you trust your life to a Chinese knock off made of inferior steel and fit and finish.

[billt]

The whole "Buy American" argument is a bit pointless today with a global economy so much in play. What's "American" anyway? A Honda Accord made in Marysville, Ohio, or a Ford F-150 assembled in Mexico? Yes, you can argue the profits go to the home corporation. Honda in Japan, and Ford in Michigan. But that argument doesn't really hold water because of the diversification of employees each company has working for them. The American Honda worker in Marysville supports his family here, and buys goods and services in this country, not Japan. The opposite can be said of the Mexican worker Ford employs.

It's the same with guns. Is my Springfield Armory 1911 that is made by Imbrel in Brazil anymore American than my Glock made in Austria, but assembled in Smyrna, Georgia? With Ruger everything is made here, either in New England or else in Prescott, Arizona. Perhaps some parts they use such as springs, pins, etc. are imported, I don't know. The same with Remington and several others like Marlin.

But I think we've reached a point with guns that you really don't know where the money ultimately winds up, let alone who it really supports. Rock Island Armory 1911's are a good example. Is Rock Island Armory an American company producing their weapons in a factory in the Philippines? If so are they any different than Nike producing their line of tennis shoes in Viet Nam? This stuff gets more complicated every day. The old saying used to always be, "Follow the money". Now you have to be an Investment Banker to do that!  Bill T.

[Timothy]

The whole "Buy American" argument is a bit pointless today with a global economy so much in play.

Really Bill?

[Solus]

Really Bill?

Well, which one is the proper choice to support America, the F-150 or the Accord, or neither?