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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #110 on: April 20, 2011, 09:28:44 PM »
I like the made in the USA, I dont like cheap imports. The only knock against my Springfields is that all there frames made in Brazil. Then again I own at least 12 different Rugers maybe one more wont hurt.
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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #111 on: April 21, 2011, 12:10:35 AM »
Seeker Two beat me to making a comment about Glock making a 1911.  ;D

Just don't see that happening. Still wondering where the Glock Carbine has been? Guess I should save that for another part of the forum?

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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #112 on: April 21, 2011, 12:35:27 AM »
When I said 1 mill I ment for  every thing to actually get you into production.  things like  install, training, software, CMM and etc.

lets also not forget that most of these machines require lots of air,  its often about 10 cfm at 100 psi.  Thats alot of air and must be 100% duty cycle.   Not a motor rated for 100% duty cycle, but the compressor rated for 100% duty cycle.  That pretty much means a rotary with atleast 5 hp per machine.  does not sound like much, but its  about 5k to start.  it wil most likly be 460V 3p and around 7 amps, thats like 4500 watts.   Thats about $6k a year in just power if you pay $.15/kwh.

 


I think Mr. Ohm would disagree.................... 3220 watts

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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #113 on: April 21, 2011, 12:56:16 AM »

I think Mr. Ohm would disagree.................... 3220 watts

Mr watts agrees with me...

if it was single phase you would be correct...

3 phase is diffrent... you have to account for the 3 phases( same hz just out of phase)

so to find watts  in ac single phase its

W=IxExPF
in 3 phase its W=IxEx1.732PF

to find PF in single phase its


PF=W/(vxA)

3 phase its
pf=w/(exix1.732)


http://www.jobsite-generators.com/power_calculators.html

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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #114 on: April 21, 2011, 01:53:30 AM »
You are right TAB........ I better go to bed.

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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #115 on: April 21, 2011, 11:01:21 AM »
So I guess The Lord High Priests at Ruger have comitted big bucks and/or resources to make this a profitable venture.

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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #116 on: April 21, 2011, 11:44:50 AM »
I didn't use all the correct terms - Almost as bad as a clip/magazine snafu  :-[

Tools are tools, and there is a cost per gun for wear and tear, and replacement of tools.  What I was talking about was the actual CNC machines.  I would like to know how much of the new production Ruger is going to ramp up with existing under utilized machines and how much will require expansion in both square footage and added machinery.

If they can increase productivity the start up costs will help keep the pricing low, and it will help economize all Ruger firearms.

TAB, much of your costs of operating machines and tooling are moot points.  Those costs are constants for all guns produced and even though producing more guns will cause higher costs of overhead, the cost per gun will remain constant.  For every CNC machine and other machine they need to replace, those costs will be factored in on a depreciation formula just like everything else that goes through that building.

Don't forget that early in the video it talks of already supplying frames to another company!  This isn't all brand new at every level.
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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #117 on: April 21, 2011, 12:03:15 PM »
Keep in mind that Ruger is one of the most sophisticated manufacturing operations I've ever visited (and not just guns). They are state of the art and that requires world-class machine utilization and an easily reconfigurable line. Also, keep in mind that Ruger was already making 1911 parts for other people. Secondly, one of the huge advantages of a large, successful company like Ruger is that they can tool up when necessary.

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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #118 on: April 21, 2011, 12:26:22 PM »
Keep in mind that Ruger is one of the most sophisticated manufacturing operations I've ever visited (and not just guns). They are state of the art and that requires world-class machine utilization and an easily reconfigurable line. Also, keep in mind that Ruger was already making 1911 parts for other people. Secondly, one of the huge advantages of a large, successful company like Ruger is that they can tool up when necessary.

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Thanks MB!

That was the direction I was headed with my questions on Ruger's operation.
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Re: A Ruger 1911 at last....
« Reply #119 on: April 21, 2011, 02:22:24 PM »
Michael,what was wrong with the 8 round mag that didnt work right?????  I didnt hear the whole reason.  Rich642z

 

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