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Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« on: April 18, 2011, 10:23:23 PM »
 ??? :-[   http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/18/arizona-gov-brewer-vetoes-law-allowing-guns-public-college-campuses/

She says the bill was sloppily written.  Frankly, it looks like it was TOO narrow and restrictive.  The U.S. Constitution guarantees RIGHTS not privileges.
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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 10:38:07 PM »
show me where it says CCW is a right?



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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 11:32:46 PM »
Quote from: TAB on April 18, 2011, 10:38:07 PM
show me where it says CCW is a right?


  :o  REALLY??? WTF???  :o

What part of ".......Shall Not Be Infringed......" do you not understand?!?


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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 11:57:38 PM »
Quote from: bjtraz on April 18, 2011, 11:32:46 PM


  :o  REALLY??? WTF???  :o

What part of ".......Shall Not Be Infringed......" do you not understand?!?


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yes really,  the 2nd amendment is actually pretty vauge, and open to interpretation.  Guess who gets to do that?

you forget that up until heller,there was no case law that said we had a right to own a gun in the home.


it said nothing about out side the home.

please prove me wrong.  Show us case law that says we have the right to CCW
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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 01:53:54 AM »
It's TAB, He's in Ca. Do I need to elaborate on that train of thought ?
TAB, simple words for simple minds, The right to keep and BEAR arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Keep, means to have and possess, irrelevant here, BEAR, means to carry on or about your person, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED means I can BEAR them any f*cking way I please.
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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 02:56:08 AM »
now where did we leave the pop corn and beers
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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 03:21:42 AM »
tom,

We all agree on the keep part( well other then those in DC and chicago), but what does "bear" mean??



Its not a black and white issue... lets use free speach as a example, we all know its not really free, child porn, slander, inciting violence, fire in a theather... etc.  These are all perfect examples of how free speach is not really free.


So which is it, do we take every thing litterly or do we have to take things in context/inturpte...

much like that other book that many people beleave in, how much do you take litteral and how much is parable?
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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 05:22:54 AM »
Quote from: TAB on April 19, 2011, 03:21:42 AM
................. free speech as a example, we all know its not really free, child porn, slander, inciting violence, fire in a theather... etc.  These are all perfect examples of how free speech is not really free.
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Erhrhhrhrhrhrh:    Non Sequitur.   These examples are not of restricting free speech.  These are examples of when speech is used to harm others in a malicious, deliberate manner.    An example of restricting free speech would be to make a law against ANY talking while on theatre property.   

It is already against the law to use firearms to murder, assault or rob. 



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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 08:50:26 AM »
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...

The TAB we all know and love is back in full force!  He's here, he's over on the new Ruger 1911, and soon he'll be on the NRA thread.

I'll probably pipe in on here later, but I've had too much coffee this morning to start ranting  >:(
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Re: Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 08:54:05 AM »
Quote from: TAB on April 18, 2011, 10:38:07 PM
show me where it says CCW is a right?


The 9th Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

So by default, it is a Right.

YOU have to show us where it says it is not a Right.
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